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alt text: 18 of our 40 employees are located in the Philippines. Insanely competent, great judgement, and $5 per hour. If you run a small business and don't have overseas help you're at a disadvantage
This part has never been quiet.
Came in to say something similar...
Bleeding our economy has always been celebrated, and the people who are being bled are always demonized.
Wow it's almost like capitalisms profit motive encourages businesses to exploit the less fortunate because not doing so puts your business at a disadvantage.
My uncle visited the Philippines. When he came back he went on and on, “They’re poor, some don’t have running water and they got dirt for floors. They work so hard though, and they’re so loyal. I wish I could find people like that here in the states. Not people constantly asking for more. People who are happy with what they have and are loyal. You can’t find anyone loyal to anything but themselves here.”
I nearly vomited hearing that shit.
“Why won’t people just make me rich here without worrying about their piece of the pie. I don’t have enough luxury vehicles. My house isn’t a castle like it should be.” Was all I heard.
It’s disgusting.
Absofuckinglutley. My God... "Only loyal to themselves."
Yeah dude... We got rid of slavery and no one exactly feels like volunteering to be a ~~slave~~ loyal worker especially when owners aren't loyal to their employees!
I should serve you and your best interests with vigor, but the next cheap labor opportunity you find you drop me like a bad habit... <No, Thanks.>
Tell him to "be the change you want to see in the world"
And then smash his floor so it becomes all dirt
It's wild that people celebrate folks sending jobs overseas as "smart business people", but then demonize workers asking for wages to keep to with inflation as "greedy".
I wonder if this guy's anti-immigration too.
Yes, but not anti temporary-migrant-workers.
Or anti-cheap visa workers that can be abused and threatened with being sent home.
I think it's fine to outsource some things overseas, but don't criminally underpay them!
$5/hr is a decent wage in the Philippines. Minimum wage there is ~$11/day, so $5/hr is quite a bit more than minimum wage.
Minimum wage may not be the whole story, our minimum wage is $7.25 still and I dont think anyone believes that can be lived on here. The cost of living is more significant a measure of the pay's fairness
Cost of living is also much lower in The Philippines vs the US. A quick search says a 1br studio near Manila costs ~₱6,500/month, which is ~$115/month. The same thing costs about 10-20x that here in the US in a city.
So $5/hr would be enough for a pretty nice lifestyle there, whereas it would be significantly below the poverty line here in the US.
Right, he is paying about 4x minimum wage, which would be about $29/hr, that’s doable.
Funny note on that: Went to stay with a friend in Manhattan back in '91. Stunned by the prices I asked, "How does anyone survive on minimum wage?!"
He laughed, "Man, nobody gets minimum wage here!"
I'm in a poor county in Florida. 6 years ago, jobs could be found at the very bottom, no more.
Their labor creates expensive value in an expensive market. Share accordingly.
“It’s a great pay where they are” argument is bullshit.
Exactly this. If they are making the same product as a local team that generates the same revenue, you're just taking a bigger slice of their surplus value. In other words, exploiting them harder.
I think that companies shouldn't be allowed to change wage/salary based on locale.
But I have no idea how that could be enforced.
Taxes
And how do you enforce the taxes?
The problem i was alluding to was shell companies, subsidiaries, and all the existing popular tax avoiding strategies used by big companies (that'd also be used for avoiding counting those employees)
More taxes?(im gonna keep saying more taxes everytime you reply, please keep replying)
For the record, I agree with more taxes. I'm ok with you replying more taxes.
But we need new laws in addition to new taxes, that prevent companies from splitting up their companies (money/employees) into distinct legal entities based on geographical location. Good luck with that, though.
It doesn't. Since the dolar has usually a higher value americans pay little but when you convert the people there make ok money. It's a win x win x lose (in this case the american people that need jobs too :/)
I automatically block anyone in my feed who has a sentence as their job title. They are always garbage.
In Canada we import people to work the jobs deemed beneath Canadians.... then they're put up in company housing.
Pretty much modern day slave trade. The money doesn't even stay in the country, a lot of it is remitted back home to their families.
Uhhh... slaves didn't get paid at all.
Allowing people to immigrate into a developed country, make way more money than they would at home, get put up in company housing, and send the majority of the money back to their families seems like a pretty good deal for all parties.
The minimum wage in Philippines is ~$6 per day in the provincial regions (350Php). $5 per hour for 8 hours is damn well nearly a king’s ransom; equivalent to 2,200Php.
Damn wtf
I wonder how many execs are paying someone in the Philippines to take their online MBA course?
Joke's on them, I don't have $5
I haven't had $5 in 7 years
But have you had “5 on it” though?
Globalism doesn't really disturb people the way it used to.
#entraprenure