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alt text: 18 of our 40 employees are located in the Philippines. Insanely competent, great judgement, and $5 per hour. If you run a small business and don't have overseas help you're at a disadvantage

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[-] [email protected] 173 points 3 months ago

This part has never been quiet.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Came in to say something similar...

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Bleeding our economy has always been celebrated, and the people who are being bled are always demonized.

[-] [email protected] 170 points 3 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Wow it's almost like capitalisms profit motive encourages businesses to exploit the less fortunate because not doing so puts your business at a disadvantage.

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[-] [email protected] 136 points 3 months ago

My uncle visited the Philippines. When he came back he went on and on, “They’re poor, some don’t have running water and they got dirt for floors. They work so hard though, and they’re so loyal. I wish I could find people like that here in the states. Not people constantly asking for more. People who are happy with what they have and are loyal. You can’t find anyone loyal to anything but themselves here.”

I nearly vomited hearing that shit.

“Why won’t people just make me rich here without worrying about their piece of the pie. I don’t have enough luxury vehicles. My house isn’t a castle like it should be.” Was all I heard.

It’s disgusting.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago

Absofuckinglutley. My God... "Only loyal to themselves."

Yeah dude... We got rid of slavery and no one exactly feels like volunteering to be a ~~slave~~ loyal worker especially when owners aren't loyal to their employees!

I should serve you and your best interests with vigor, but the next cheap labor opportunity you find you drop me like a bad habit... <No, Thanks.>

[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

Tell him to "be the change you want to see in the world"

And then smash his floor so it becomes all dirt

[-] [email protected] 101 points 3 months ago

It's wild that people celebrate folks sending jobs overseas as "smart business people", but then demonize workers asking for wages to keep to with inflation as "greedy".

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

I wonder if this guy's anti-immigration too.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Yes, but not anti temporary-migrant-workers.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Or anti-cheap visa workers that can be abused and threatened with being sent home.

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[-] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago

I think it's fine to outsource some things overseas, but don't criminally underpay them!

[-] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago

$5/hr is a decent wage in the Philippines. Minimum wage there is ~$11/day, so $5/hr is quite a bit more than minimum wage.

[-] [email protected] 67 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Minimum wage may not be the whole story, our minimum wage is $7.25 still and I dont think anyone believes that can be lived on here. The cost of living is more significant a measure of the pay's fairness

[-] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago

Cost of living is also much lower in The Philippines vs the US. A quick search says a 1br studio near Manila costs ~₱6,500/month, which is ~$115/month. The same thing costs about 10-20x that here in the US in a city.

So $5/hr would be enough for a pretty nice lifestyle there, whereas it would be significantly below the poverty line here in the US.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Right, he is paying about 4x minimum wage, which would be about $29/hr, that’s doable.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Funny note on that: Went to stay with a friend in Manhattan back in '91. Stunned by the prices I asked, "How does anyone survive on minimum wage?!"

He laughed, "Man, nobody gets minimum wage here!"

I'm in a poor county in Florida. 6 years ago, jobs could be found at the very bottom, no more.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Their labor creates expensive value in an expensive market. Share accordingly.

“It’s a great pay where they are” argument is bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Exactly this. If they are making the same product as a local team that generates the same revenue, you're just taking a bigger slice of their surplus value. In other words, exploiting them harder.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think that companies shouldn't be allowed to change wage/salary based on locale.

But I have no idea how that could be enforced.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And how do you enforce the taxes?

The problem i was alluding to was shell companies, subsidiaries, and all the existing popular tax avoiding strategies used by big companies (that'd also be used for avoiding counting those employees)

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It doesn't. Since the dolar has usually a higher value americans pay little but when you convert the people there make ok money. It's a win x win x lose (in this case the american people that need jobs too :/)

[-] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

I automatically block anyone in my feed who has a sentence as their job title. They are always garbage.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

In Canada we import people to work the jobs deemed beneath Canadians.... then they're put up in company housing.

Pretty much modern day slave trade. The money doesn't even stay in the country, a lot of it is remitted back home to their families.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Uhhh... slaves didn't get paid at all.

Allowing people to immigrate into a developed country, make way more money than they would at home, get put up in company housing, and send the majority of the money back to their families seems like a pretty good deal for all parties.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

The minimum wage in Philippines is ~$6 per day in the provincial regions (350Php). $5 per hour for 8 hours is damn well nearly a king’s ransom; equivalent to 2,200Php.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago

I wonder how many execs are paying someone in the Philippines to take their online MBA course?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Joke's on them, I don't have $5

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

I haven't had $5 in 7 years

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

But have you had “5 on it” though?

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Globalism doesn't really disturb people the way it used to.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

#entraprenure

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