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Meanwhile, 44 percent backed the American tradition of competing branches of government as a model, if sometimes “frustrating,” system.

Why would people want to live under an authoritarian’s thumb? It’s rooted, experts say, in a psychological need for security—real or perceived—and a desire for conformity, a goal that becomes even more acute as the country undergoes dramatic demographic and social changes. People also like to obey a strong leader who will protect the group—especially if it is the “right” group whose interests will be protected. Recall the Trump supporter who, during the 2019 government shutdown, complained, “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

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[-] [email protected] 136 points 2 months ago

The people who dont want to be told how they live desperately want someone to tell them how to live.

[-] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They want their opinion mirrored back at them by someone in power so they don't have to take responsibility for their own opinions.

A close friend of mine is a woman of color and her bosses want the same things from her. They wants to hear their opinion come out of someone with her skin tone so they feel justified and not responsible at the same time. I imagine these are similar phenomenon.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Nailed it, this 💯

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You just perfectly described the Candace Owens and Dave Rubin phenomenon.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

They don't want to be told how to live while simultaneously having someone force others to live like them.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

To have others be told how to live, which is how they prefer to live already.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Exactly.

They support him because they believe he is like them, so they won't need to change anything. It's everyone else that will be forced to be like them that they want...

I hope I'm not spreading misinformation, but I believe one of the victims of the assassination attempt had a flag on his Facebook page that was a play off of "don't tread on me" and in it's place was a tank with "tread on all of them."

I fucking hate these people so much

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[-] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

Also fun fact:

Every tabletop scenario he ran (think like a UN version of Risk) in which the Authoritarians had control, they wiped out everyone with nuclear war including themselves.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I don't think we'll go out that way, but I do 100% believe our greed will be our "great filter" that we do not pass. :(

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

with dwindling resources on a warming planet, I think the likelyhood of a significant nuclear exchange is dramatically increased - perhaps even inevitable.

agree with the great filter. it makes me think that humans, having acted as a great filter for our hominid family tree, are about to reap what we have been sowing for the last 200k+ years.

or this could be a one of many catalysts for speciation. I sometimes feel that some people are already a different species. not better, not worse (not willing to engage in subjective morality) - just different, with different goals, problems and problem solving tools.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago

TIL 32% of Americans are idiots.

Wait … I knew this already. Never mind.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can pretty much ask almost any insane thing and it somehow always comes out to at least 30% of Americans.

I sometimes wonder if it'd always the same 30% and there just 30% idiots, or if that 30% spans multiple topics and groups of idiots and its actually higher like 60%

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

Even well-meaning authoritarians can do terrible things, to say nothing of their eventual replacement. Look what happens to otherwise great companies when the founder dies and is replaced by someone just looking to maximize next quarter profits.

What short-sighted utter fools.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

And this right here is exactly why leftist should never give up their guns.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

  • Karl Marx

If you go far enough left, you get your guns back!

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

That's not far left, that's just left of center. Don't buy the American bullshit that socialism is an extreme, it honestly isn't.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

a decade later, somewhere on 4chan

be me
hardcore Trump supporter
Trump wins, I'm ecstatic
world starts going to hell, WW3 kicks off
married with three sons, trying to keep everything together
decide to start a construction company, war efforts boost business
build a bunch of buildings, making bank
get elected to local office, life is on the up and up

land a huge contract, biggest yet
build the place, turns out it's a gay bar
fml
media catches wind, calls me part of the "woke agenda"
sons get drafted into the war, proud but terrified
trying to keep the family safe as the world burns
business takes a nosedive, firebombed by extremists
every building I've ever built gets torched
house goes up in flames, barely escape with wife

wife blames me for everything, says I'm the reason we're targeted
receive word from the front lines
"All three of your sons killed in friendly fire"
caskets arrive the next morning
wife loses it completely, leaves the country, I'm left alone

arrested, accused of contributing to "trans agenda"
just a foreman trying to get by, now rotting in jail
every dream turned to ash
life was supposed to be perfect
now I'm just a broken man with nothing but regret

tfw everything falls apart because of one misguided decision

sadpepe.jpg

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure I find the idea of a 4Channer with a wife plausible.

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

We fought a fucking war over this and people still seem to love licking boots.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

It was a disturbingly close call which side of WWII we were gonna land on. In 1939 the second-largest Nazi party in the world was right here in America.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Stupid people who don’t know how the system works think that they will someday be wearing the boot. They think because they kiss the boot that they’ll never be stomped.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

Hmm I wonder what 30% that is....

I also wonder if there is any overlap between that 30% and people that have a bones for "freedom" and "liberty"

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[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

Leopards ate my face energy

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Can’t they just say Trump supporters?

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Reactionaries believe that all of the problems they face are due to the fact that the wrong people are ruling.

They are 100% in favor of a neo-feudal pseudoaristocracy where billionaires are unleashed to rule the States as their fiefdoms and will impose their vision upon their subjects.

Reactionaries do not value individual autonomy except for the privileged man who runs the factory, farm, or family; all others should do as they're told or face his wrath.

They do not believe in structuring society to be fair and equitable, as is evident by their crusaides against DEI, holding police accountable, women, LGBTQ people, the non-religious, the unhoused, progressive taxes, and welfare.

All they care about is power to enact their will on others.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

The Founders were ONLY CORRECT when they said we're allowed to Shoot Up Elementary Schools. Everything else was WRONG!

-Pro Life Republicans.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

32% is all you need. Thanks to the perpetual minority rule established by electoral college system

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Weird coincidence, but have you noticed how Trump's approval, when it's at its absolute lowest, always hovers around 32%?

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

From this and other polls it really does seem that most countries would be immeasurably improved if a good third of the population were to spontaneously combust.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I think I know which third it should be.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Username checks out.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Alternative headline: "32 percent of Americans are fucking braindead"

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

This country is cooked that number is way too high.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

32% of Americans want to be Nazis? Sad to see.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

32 percent of Americans are fascist bootlickers

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

At this point, I would be unsurprised if a third of Americans voted for an industrial meat shredder for President, even after it had been repeatedly and clearly explained they would be marched into it at gunpoint if it won. The lower part of our bell curve is… well… very, very low.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I'm 100% in favor of me being a dictator for life but otherwise I'm pretty sure democracy is a good idea.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

I hate this country more and more every day.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

“Susan Sontag was asked what she had learned from the Holocaust, and she said that 10% of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10% is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80% could be moved in either direction” —Kurt Vonnegut

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I read some research somewhere that found that about a third of the people in any given country are authoritarian shitheads (paraphrasing). The problem is that the unique structure of the US system of government gives said shitheads outsized power and representation relative to their numbers.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you ask the same people if they would want a leftist military regime or authoritarian governement they would beg for democracy. These people have no scrouples. End of the day they just want to be left alone like everyone else. It's just lashing out because they themselves don't want to change.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a ~~Hero~~ [Dictator]"

Pardot Kynes

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