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Meanwhile, 44 percent backed the American tradition of competing branches of government as a model, if sometimes “frustrating,” system.

Why would people want to live under an authoritarian’s thumb? It’s rooted, experts say, in a psychological need for security—real or perceived—and a desire for conformity, a goal that becomes even more acute as the country undergoes dramatic demographic and social changes. People also like to obey a strong leader who will protect the group—especially if it is the “right” group whose interests will be protected. Recall the Trump supporter who, during the 2019 government shutdown, complained, “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.”

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Regardless of if it's true, you shouldn't use that word.

However its all perspective, an intellectual disability is described as 30 points below average, because a 30 point difference is noticable.

So even just two people at the end of the first standard deviation would experience that.

Being three standard deviations above average isn't that rare, about 1 in 1200, about the same rate as people who transition oddly enough, so it's a good comparison.

If you're "lucky" enough to be over 145, about 84% of everyone else is at least 30 points below you.

It's like real life Idiocracy or old school Cassandra. Shit seems so simple but no one listens.

Even then bro, dont resort to that word.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What are your thoughts on the words moron, stupid, or idiot?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

They used to be bad, now they're not.

Maybe it will change for this one too, but it's not our decision currently

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I agree it is relatively arbitrary, I removed the comment because of the effect it has on the tone of the community- not because of the history of the word.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I wonder what are his thoughts on fun places like reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets where everybody calls each other retard because their investment decisions perfectly fit that term.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Being three standard deviations above average isn't that rare, about 1 in 1200, about the same rate as people who transition oddly enough, so it's a good comparison.

I... Don't think trans folks are quite that common, let alone those that undergo transition treatment.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That says 0.51% of adults, and under 18 rates are higher.

1/1200 is 0.83%

0.32% is close enough for an "about" on social media, if we add in under 18 it would get closer, but I'm not doing that much math.

Neither is exactly 1/1200 tho

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

1/1200 is .000833... So .08%. That's not how the calculations for finding X in Y people work.

And the source I linked specifically says 1.6 million people in the US aged 13+ identify as trans, which is 0.48% of the 333.3 million people in the US.

We were both wrong, it's approximately 1 in 208 people. 333,300,000 / 1,600,000 = ~208.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I had another comment where I discovered the number is much higher (1 in 208, roughly). I'm not great at ratios, so 1 in 1200 didn't sound that rare, especially if you're in areas with a lower LGBT+ demographic. In hindsight, it makes more sense, as I know a few trans people myself and my city isn't even that large.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dude, context matters. Things can be insulting or not depending of where and when phrase was used. Every smart person understands the intent behind that sentence, and that it was a hyperbole.

Don't assume other people can't read context and the intent, because if you do, you're actually insulting their intelligence

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Every smart person understands the intent behind that sentence, and that it was a hyperbole.

You really typed that out and didn't see the issue?

People with intellectual disabilities can still use social media, they can still pick Lemmy, and they can still see your comment.

And it's not up to you or me if it's offensive in any context.

Do you use other slurs like this? Go to a pride parade and start dropping F bombs? BLM protests your just letting the n word fly?

It's not up to them if it's offensive, its you're call if the context makes it ok?

Just stop man. You're not helping yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think you know what an f bomb is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No one cares if you say fuck, people even have it in usernames...

We're talking about current slurs...

What do you think I meant?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

See fuck is the f-bomb.

Maybe you should make up your own new slang

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

People with intellectual disabilities can still use social media

Yes they can. Do you suggest they can't read with comprehension? You're actually insulting them by implying that they're too dumb to understand my intent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's amazing to me that people have issues with medical words, which are turned into epithets, which are then removed from the medical lexicon because they have become epithets, and would use that to derail a discussion on the fact that a full third of Americans don't want to live in a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What derailed the conversation was use of slurs...

But if you really want to pull out the old "what's really a problem is people complaining about bigotry" cars from the Republican deck, go for it.

Unfortunately it wouldn't be surprising these days, moderates keep acting more and more like trump supporters. Someone asks for basic decency and they get accused of bad faith.

Did you not see how that worked out for Republicans?

Be better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago
  1. I'm not a moderate.

  2. Yes, I saw perfectly how that worked out for Republicans. Corporations are massively scaling back their diversity initiatives and support for the LGBTQ community because the right are allowed to play word games. Also, they elected a fascists once and are on the verge of doing so again, partly because certain alleged Democrats would rather whinge about labels which scares the ignorant masses that make up the voting population.

  3. One-third of Americans want to be governed at the end of a gun barrel. But please, keep on being so concerned about civility while Republicans push forward their destruction of America.