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[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean all vegetables are grown for look over taste these days. deeper-sadness

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Tomato’s being a particularly egregious example

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just eat bell peppers or anaheims or something and leave my jalapenos alone.

I legit don't get the point when there's so many pepper varieties.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Its not so people who can't handle spice can eat more, it's so that companies making industrial quantities of salsa, etc. can get a more consistent spice level but the same jalapeno flavor by using a mild pepper and adding capsaicin as needed

Which isn't to say its good or normal, shit sucks

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Then just use bell peppers and add more capsaicin

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bell peppers don't really taste like jalapenos, they lack any of the grassy jalapeno flavor

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

then use bell peppers and grass

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

White people do anything to avoid adding spice

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but then they cant legally tell people it has jalapeno in it, nor do they probably taste the same. Could probably get it pretty close though I admit

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

capsaicin extracts have a hideous chemical flavor, it's better to just use peppers at the level you want

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Jalapenos have a specific flavor and they're prolific bearers of fruit, maybe that's part of it

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's all food, with maybe one exception, honeycrisp apples, but all sub variants of the honeycrisp are worse! In an effort to appeal to mass market, all food is being purposely made more bland. Then you gotta pay more for "high quality tasty food" it's disgusting. Food science is a mistake, return to grandma cross breeding heirlooms.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a result of breeding for shipping across the country and storage too. Heirloom tomatoes could never make it to a grocery store intact. And a demand to eat everything out of season.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean on one hand yes, on the other hand, I don't want to eat salted beef and dried pumpkins all winter like they did pre-refrigeration

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Salted beef would be a luxury. More like salt cod - and I don't mean an angry gamer

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

well, cod's gone sadness-abysmal So dried pumpkin, cabbage, potatoes, pickled food, apples, beans, lentils, nuts, grain, and cheese it is

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Food science is a mistake

only under capitalism

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

I'll raise you.

food science is a broad subject. it includes all kinds of objectively good things like the addition of iodine, folates and other nutrients to food. also it includes sanitation and quality control which are more required under capitalism.

people talking shit about science in food are advocating for sawdust in bread, spoiled milk and lead just about fucking everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eradicating the Red "Delicious" apple is praxis.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

serrano gang is accepting applications

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Edit: incorrect, I must just have never had a good Serrano

Serrano has always been milder though. Shit, last time I bought some habs from a regular store they were mild enough for a midwestern child who’s yet to learn ranch is optional

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, Serranos have always been about twice as spicy as Jalapenos. Maybe I've just gotten some seed-packed scorchers?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I looked it up, they max out several times higher. I must just be in a region with incredibly mid Serrano supply

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It works out, grocery inadequacies aside the region is amazing for growing peppers.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

Big Cracka creates the problems and sells us the “cure”

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

rage-cry

Capitalism has gone too far this time

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Big Salsa can take my yard peppers out of my cold dead hands

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

gods those are some productive plants.

last year i had like baskets overflowing from just 3 plants.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

So that's why my anti-cracker-aktion ass can eat them now.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Serranos seem to be on the upswing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Tbf Serranos are superior in the moderately hot pepper world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Fyi, if you grow your own jalapenos, if you want them to be spicier, basically starve them of water. Literally use the least amount of water necessary to keep it alive and 'healthy' and it should make for good peppers. Source- I googled how to make jalapenos spicier because I thought roasting them made them hotter.... Only makes them milder... boohoo

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

the worst thing is that they're still going to be too spicy for white people

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're gonna reintroduce "heirloom jalapeños" and mark the price up by ×5

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Goddamn mayos....

STOP FUCKING WITH MY JALAPENOS, DAMN IT!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

So this is why I have been forced to buy like 12 at a time just to make sure I end up with a few hot enough to make Pico de Gallo.

Fuckers.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

this is the level lmayo have stooped to negative

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Funny you should mention that, I bought some jalapeno cheetos and I noticed they're a lot more mild now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

goddamn anti-cracker-aktion's. If it doesn't make me cry, it ain't spicy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Those of us interested in jalapenos have known about this for a while, and constantly curse that professor at A&M. The article posted here mentioned it in a two sentence throwaway line, but most of the reason is because the jalapenos grown aren't like monsanto corn: the pepper pollen got out and now it's basically wild and runs rampant when you are growing them.

Then, you know, the contribution of breeders wanting the less spicy version just made things worse. Way worse.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

smuglord: "Ummmm.....no one owes you flavor, sweaty! It's porky's right to remove flavor if he wants."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

My tummy instincts tell me this is what happens when crackers and capitalism run the sciencey science stuff

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I learned about this at my local farmers market.

If you get your jalapenos from people who are aware of this, they buy the good seeds and grow and sell those. It made a lot of sense once she explained it.

Once in a while though, I don't mind the store bought ones if I dont want as much heat. They do end up tasting like a green pepper though

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I prefer the poblanos myself. flavorful, smoky, and with enough heat for the average POC like me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I tried some "tamed" jarred jalapeno slices from the store recently that were pretty good, mainly cuz I have less desire to shit fire than I used too. Just jalapenos with little spice basically.

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