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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Leave a trail of ketamine that leads into a cage?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You spelled Sink Hole incorrectly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

No, I think he described a k-hole correctly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

let that sink in, motherfucker

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

“K hole”?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

A hot tub would be better

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The real answer is tax him proportionally so he doesnt have more power than the state. You cab tell the state is either an idiot beast or has always served the owner class because it does nothing to defend itself from them. Centralized powers are a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Personally kind of wondering if the city-state was the best balance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Then you have shit heads like Sparta attacking the other powers.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Take. His. Shit.

Billionaires need to understand they are not entitled to the vast wealth they command.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

SpaceX should legit be eminent domain’d and just folded into NASA - or at least just make the federal government the primary stakeholder and revoke Phony Stark’s ownership. He’s done shit with SpaceX assets that directly contravene US international policy, which is a direct violation of the Logan Act (which, to be fair, is basically never enforced against anyone who has enough money and power - which needs to change).

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not giving him constant media attention would be a good start.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Taxing the shit out of him would probably work pretty well too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, clamping his balls in a floor vise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, you never know, that could be one of his kinks, and thus basically a reward

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he’s into that sort of thing, it sort ruins it for the rest of us

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not fun for him....fun for us....if he's into it, we'll keep going until it's fun for us and he really isn't into it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I got a 270 pound floor vice I can donate to the cause.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

...yo France, I feel like you're a subject matter expert here - any tips?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Tips besides the guillotine.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

Let's not rule anything out just yet

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Why remove the option we know for a fact was extremely effective?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Na, go with the guy, first idea is the best idea.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Fully expected some ineffectual BS, but then I saw the author was Robert Reich so I decided to give it the time of day.

He’s got some good points. Musk is very vulnerable in a lot of ways, and there’s a decent amount of ammo to attack him on each of those fronts.

If regular people, businesses, and governments all decided to say “fuck you” to him in unison, he could be bankrupt, imprisoned, dethroned, and banned from several industries in just a few years’ time.

Now, his worst-case scenario is extremely unlikely… but I wonder if the fact that bits and pieces of it might come to fruition is why he’s gone so batshit insane over the past several years. It must seem like there’s no choice but to double down on the grift now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

My friend ... all we need to do is let his investors at him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Starlink is now critical infrastructure in the military industrial complex. While Musk owns a substantial portion of SpaceX, Starlink's parent company, and Elon over 40% of the equity, he's relatively untouchable.

Does the article address this point specifically?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

guess the government needs to take ownership. you know. For national security.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Stop. Giving. Him. Attention. Stop using his shit.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Is it a guillotine? What do I win if it's a guillotine? I'm pretty sure it's a guillotine. Just saying. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Might be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Fraudulent websites get censored constantly. Why does X not count as fraudulent?

Politicians should act. In the mean time, let’s find a way to further damage the platform.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

The author makes several good points, but watching him implode is fun in the meantime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Seize all his assets, nationalize his companies.

The fact that we even talk about how to "reign in" billionaires is ridiculous. No one should be a billionaire. No one should be allowed to have total autocratic control over vast swathes of humanity's resources. Every dollar he has represents human labour and natural resources; things that belong to all of us (or none of us depending on your perspective).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Boycott X” not being listed in general, is mind boggling

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, you would imagine that an author could recognize that advertisers are on X because of its popularity. So #4 would require this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Maybe an analysis on why these "wolutions" aren't already occuring and an idea on moving towards them would be more helpful. 4 of 5 are top-down ideas with zero political motivation for those with authority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The people that work at twitter could just shut it down. Not like he knows how to run a complicated website.

His security team could also just, I don't know, bring him to an undisclosed location and not bring him back.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago

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