the original undermines its own message: they are lifting it, even if barely and with difficulty, which implies that those characters are within an order of magnitude or so of literal divine power.
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I think that's canonically true for Goku and Hulk
Goku vs Jesus debate when
Since Goku existed and has always been a Christ figure?
Goku has died way more times than Jesus. That probably gives him an edge.
Sun Wukong is way cooler than Jesus
Jesus fed the 5000. Goku eats that much every day.
So this is the power of God and anime
Worshiping Goku is a one way ticket to the Home For Infinite Losers.
To be fair, Jesus' message (some of it, scripture is not univocal) is that divine power is within the grasp of us mere mortals. That everyone who follows him would be able to do miracles like his.
(Apologists suggest he was referring to just the apostles to explain why the rest of us are bound by naturalism, but there are implications that's not what he meant.)
Note that Gospel Jesus was big on direct evidence.
That said, the cross was made of wood, and Jesus wasn't the only convict tasked with carrying one. The gravity is in being willing to die for one's principles which all of these characters would do unflinchingly.
Pointing out that Jesus was absolutely not the only person who carried a cross and was crucified is an excellent point. The cartoonist absolutely missing the whole... thing with thos image.
Matthew 17:20, NIV He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
I was raised Evangelical and yeah, my parents took that literally.
Hell, he wasn’t even the only one carrying his. He stumbled three times and a stranger helped him carry it
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Ok as an ex catholic the level of sacreligiosity here is impressive. The cross isn’t the heavy bit, it’s heavy sure, he was tortured to death, but a stranger helped him carry it when he couldn’t carry it alone. The heavy bit was choosing to go be tortured to death for everyone including his killers. It was refusing to use divine power to save himself. The cross? No, a thief, a murderer, and a prophet died on that hill that day, each carried their cross, each died on it.
Protestants are fucking weird.
Protestants are fucking weird.
To be fair, transubstantiation.
Trans what now?
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And as a paragon of good I wouldn't think Jesus would be so smug about it
Not to detect from your final point, but I'm quite sure the point of this super dumb religious meme is the symbolic weight of the cross.
It's not protestants, it's wacko us pseudo Christian sects that are anything but (but that seem to be dominant in the religious landscape in the US).
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If your god's greatest act is "willingly becoming a murder victim", you might be in a death cult.
Regarding the original panel: Powerscaling is so dumb. Fine, your imaginary character is stronger than mine. Now, what?
Might makes right, obv.
Now we do it again with two other characters, because it's fun. =D
Sometimes it's just fun to write fanfic regardless of who you think is stronger. If the characters have strong motivations good stories are bound to unfold.
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OK so I have questions about this cartoon. I get Hulk, Mr Incredible and Goku, but why Mighty Mouse?
To appeal to children, which is an important focus of religious propaganda.
Need to get the programming in early to make it stick. Especially developing brains can be put into a completely fictional world and their young brains assume it's reality. The CIA did some fun stuff on this, but religion has hundreds of years of experience with child abuse in all of its forms.
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Because mice sin too.
Curious what sins mice do.
Fun fact: all mice are devil worshippers
False idols. Lots of gold statues in mouse dens.
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It's like they've never seen an episode before. He was always lifting up crosses and crucifying Jews.
In turn, could Jesus lift Mjölnir?
Probably. Dude was a prototypical pacifist and would probably use it for carpentry.
Nah, the comics make a point that "worthy" is based on Asgardian morals, not Christian. Pacifists couldn't lift it because Asgardians are expected to be warriors.
Darn, today I learned that Mr. Rogers was ready for war.
People said it was just a rumor that he was a Navy Seal, but that artist knew the truth.
Jesus, known for lifting up crosses
Someone helped him carry it after he collapsed a few times.
So weird to see this without Mr. Incredible twerking
SMH I can't believe they did goku like this.
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