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AUSTIN, Texas – Leaked video shows Hood County Constable Scott London, Hood County GOP Chair Steve Biggers and Hood County GOP Chair candidate Greg Harrell attending a meeting held by Abolish Abortion Texas (AATX) where they supported the death penalty for women who seek abortions or use IVF, including pregnant minors. London and Harrel have also signed onto a pledge from the same group vowing to abolish all circumstances of abortion care in Texas.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Surprised it's a leaked video, and not a campaign ad

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago

Don’t give them any ideas, the tube’s gotten toxic enough lately.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 7 months ago (2 children)

By this logic, all the republicans that have caused the premature death of people by not providing healthcare, homeless services, meals for children, living wages, and cause people to be caught in vicious cycles of poverty and drug abuse should also be put to death. Line them up!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

It's not logic, and trying to argue with them will never work. It's disdain for and a desire to control women, period. Conservatism is about hierarchy, and people having their proper place in it. These laws and outlooks are about trying to keep women in their place in the hierarchy. The same can be said about laws against LGBTQ people.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They want the death penalty? I can't with these people, I thought the whole point of banning abortion was that "every life is sacred".

Do they ever get tired of being so hypocritical?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No, this has always been about control. They get to decide who lives and who dies, not women, which is why the pro-life types are always also pro death penalty.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

It's always about power.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In my country they're anti-death-penalty, courtesy of Catholicism. I hate how they made ectopic pregnancies into death sentences but props to them for consistency I guess.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The whole point was to punish sexually promiscuous women.

Every life is sacred is just the spin.

Every unborn life is sacred. Every actual born human can go fuck themselves.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

punish sexually promiscuous women.

So then where does all this whinging about IVF enter into it? How dare you get pregnant by... not... having... sex?

I realize my problem here is that I'm attempting to apply logic where none actually exists. But come on.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Not to mention: that's punishing people who are specifically, deliberately TRYING to become parents. They're probably among the LEAST likely to get abortions.

There isn't any logic. The cruelty is the point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The unborn are innocent, after which they're tainted with original sin. It makes sense in the dumbest way possible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is really a Catholic interpretation and those in TX are certainly in the Evangelical camp. They don't really think in terms of original sin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They do, but they also think that loudly affirming your love for Jesus and then living according to their rules solves it. So it doesn't come up until you refuse them.

Catholics think living a generally good life is enough and that there's forgiveness for most things as long as you remain active in the church, go to confession, and do your penance.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

In my experience, there's generally little difference between an Evangelical and a Sovereign Citizen. They both speak certain magic words that means they don't have to face any consequences; they believe that they have all of the rights of doing so but none of the responsibilities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Not even promiscuous, really. Any woman who wants to have sex and also wants to avoid pregnancy is on their shit list. Doesn't matter if she's with one person for 20 years. Could even be married. Get an abortion, go to jail, oh wait no, the friggin electric chair.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't know why this is news to anyone. Do we not teach history any more? They go for the heaviest available sentences and then sit in judgement of women depending on their social and political status. But they'll pretend it's based on some objective standard. So rich conservative women get the "poor girl had a miscarriage" treatment and poor minorities get the heaviest penalty possible for maliciously killing babies.

This is not new, this is not the first time religious conservatives have done this.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 7 months ago

Envious of the the talibans and the stonings?...

[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are taking on IVF. Next they will start to say that people who had C-sections are not really mothers and their children were not actually born. (note: this is a real thing)

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Fine; Children born via c-section were not actually born. That means they don't have to pay taxes. Checkmate!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

lol nice one

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Also means they can kill Macbeth.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago

This is the same kinda thing that happened recently with Ohio and Michigan republicans where they were discussing how they intend to ban all gender affirming care for literally everyone. It's almost like the Republicans are bigots and monsters who want to enact their bigotry and awfulness on the country.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

Ah yes. Christian love.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not much different from the Taliban over in Afghanistan. All the religious idiots wanting to kill women, even young girls.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Both are also following an old set of laws, completely unwilling to change anything even as society changes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Y'All Qaeda, everyone.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

where they supported the death penalty for women who seek abortions

When you're so pro-life you loop around and become pro-killing.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

This will have no effect in an election year. /s

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

Republicans meet with Republicans. What else is new?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm starting to wonder if all this insane shit about punishing women over reproductive health care is an attempt to make domestic abuse acceptable.

Like I get it, not having control over someone you have shaky trust in doesn't feel good, but maybe it's not about control and it's about that lack of trust.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Given that they’re trying to do away with no-fault divorce and one-party divorce, your theory is the natural outcome they seek.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Oh no that's the entire trad movement and every time they say the man is the head of the household.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

May the lord open

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, my butt is symmetrical. Both left and right buttcheeks are there.

#ButtBothSides

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

that's fucked up. crazy fucking right wing nutjobs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Conservatism should be illegal. Nothing good in the history of mankind has ever come from it. The only things to come from conservatism are oppression, bigotry and death.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Too broad a stroke friend, conservatism is by definition the inclination to maintain the existing or traditional order. It's conservative to vote, its conservative to protest, and it's conservative to show the landed gentry a short walk to a long drop.

The GOP isn't conservative they are opportunistic regressive xenophobes finding joy in making people's lives worse using the flaws in a system that can't work without everyone participating in good faith

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Your defense of conservatism is incongruent with the historical tendency of every nation's most conservative population to oppress the vulnerable.

Your definition of the word conservative is impractical as it casts all participants of a functional culture as conservatives. In this way, you and I have different definitions of the word, which makes this an unimportant argument of semantics, rather than a profound ideological debate.

You prefer to defend conservatives by re-labelling them as something distinct, but this only allows conservatives to wiggle out of the crosshairs over and over again as they point to the "other" conservatives as the culprit of their collective behavior.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If it’s conservative to do any of those things then all democrats are conservative. Which isn’t true so this is not correct.

Conservative is a political party. And it should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Eh, your democrats in the US are Conservative to Europe. Your "left wing" is pretty much on par with our right wing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

you lying Texas assholes who claim to be Christians are all going to Hell.. there's nothing Christian about hating abortion, you lying, selfish, proud assholes..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

“Attended” meetings? Texasdemocrats, they are the meetings. Why are you, of all voices, giving them an out?