mojo_raisin

Exactly! We can't blame these companies and then buy their stuff and deflect all responsibility.

It's sort of a cycle that runs on apathy, ignorance, and lack of empathy.

Powerful groups manipulate and coerce people and markets

Manipulated, coerced people buy more of what they are pushed to

Consumer votes in leaders that support this exploitative cycle making laws facilitating companies manipulating and coercing their behavior

We need to break out of this cycle by conscientiously rejecting this manipulation, buying less, voting, running for office, etc. (i.e. degrowth)

Voting isn’t going to do shit.

Voting can buy us time and keep us a situation more conducive to making changes outside the electoral system. Protesting under a fascist regime is a good way to get a life sentence, get deported, or put on a blacklist.

Unfortunately, as long as we leave political offices to be filled by the worst of us this will continue. Voting is only half the battle.

Have I not seen both Harris and Walz in rural areas almost every day lately going into small shops and union factories... putting tons of money and energy into swing states and states not normally considered in play for the Democrats? I don't remember seeing either of them spending much energy going to Manhattan, Los Angeles, San Diego, etc. that I remember. I've heard them both talk about rural areas mostly and being incredibly important and listen to their concerns.

The US is huge, they are two people, it's impossible for them to visit every small town.

They turned their fishing nets into ancient fishnet hosiery.

Conservatives are simply fascists with masks on.

Why is an ever growing population considered unquestionably good?

If we make more food so we can make more people, it will accelerate the destruction of the planet. No amount of electric cars and vegan diets can do anything but slow down the destruction by a small degree. We can't just wipe out natural environments to mine and farm for the niceties of modern human life and expect the web of life to continue to support us and we cannot survive without this web of life.

I think our species (in aggregate) is no more intelligent than bacteria on a petri dish, we're dumb animals with cell phones. An actual intelligent species would be smart enough to avoid outgrowing it's environment leading to it's own demise. Population is one of the greatest filters.

I'd consider from the other direction. If I constantly farted all day, and I had the option of concentrating 99% of those farts into once daily solid waste deposit, I'd be quite excited about the potential of my future social life.

Look up "megasites", these are large settlements not called cities as they lack signs of being dominated by a subset of themselves. One I've heard of is called "Nebelivka" but I believe there are at least a few others known and probably others either not yet found or misunderstood as cities.

I mean, they're on FB, so ya, they probably thought something like that, if their thoughts even went beyond the words themselves.

It's like imagining what a lizard thinks about you, it's easy and fun to project your intelligence on it, this is what you're doing here. You're projecting your intelligence and logic on others apparently without that capacity. Those FB people didn't think about what their words meant any more than a lizard wonders about your nature.

Humans existed for well over 200,000 years without government. There is strong evidence of massive settlements that existed for extended periods without any sign of being ruled, just people living and cooperating.

In fact, it's the formation of governments that could enforce exploitative economic systems that started the ecological collapse of this planet in the first place. Humans without government live in balance with the rest of the world.

The idea that humans, to survive and thrive, require the formation of an entity (government/state) that allows the subset of the population in control of the it to exploit the subset not in control of it is a dangerous fallacy.

I think it's safe to assume his nuts got so damaged he needed a ballectomy -- Erdogan has not had balls for over a decade.