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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Link - https://twitter.com/ClareDalyMEP/status/1747323130060697682

They already Community Noted her - Clare Daly is a highly controversial Irish politician who was accused of nepotism, support for dictators like Putin and Assad, causing divide in European parliamentary left, and arguably doesn't represent not just dead Irish ancestors but also majority of living Irish.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Be Ireland

Not in NATO

Not in the Fourteen eyes so privacy actually is a thing.

Is more of an imperial periphery country and therefore has little to no enemies.

Just minds its own fucking business.

Pro-Palestine

Easily the best western country.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

not western, nor imperial core

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Explain by what logic Cuba would be considered not Western but Ireland would be considered Western?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago

They aren't considered to be in the western 'bloc', which would also include South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, etc. It's definitely an outdated and inaccurate term, we should just call them losers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The same logic that excludes the Balkans and Russia from being Western.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Russia is north to me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The thing that excludes the balkans and Russia from being western is that they aren't in the western hemisphere.

Something notably distinct from Cuba.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is Australia in the western hemisphere?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No but I wouldn't argue they're eastern for the same reason that America and england are.

They're incredibly isolated and don't really have any cultural neighbors other than New Zealand which is right on the border of the hemispheres while Cuba is literally within sight of America and surrounded by other western countries with similar culture and practically dead center in the western hemisphere.

I get the point it's a stand in for "imperial core" and "everybody else" but saying they're western for the same reason that countries that are actually in the western hemisphere is a really dumb argument.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You don't seem to understand "western" is just a colloquialism for Americanism and Pan-Europeanism, geography plays only the most superficial of roles in the historical distribution of these cultures, imperialism tends to do funny things with geography

Also, in what possible way is Cuba culturally similar to the United States, and how is Australia culturally isolated from the rest of the Anglosphere? It's the fact it's populated by anglos that makes it a western country, not it's positional coordinates on a giant sphere

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Poland overlaps the same longitudes as, say, Serbia, so this isn't really a full explanation. But the fact that former Yugoslavia is still isolated and othered from Western Europe means it's culturally and politically distinct. Cuba, while politically distinct from surrounding countries, is culturally very close to other Caribbean countries. So it's kind of a mixed bag, but I still think reasonably the only way to categorize Cuba is as a Western country despite the political difference.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

most of europe isn't in the western hemisphere???

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

ireland being in the european union imo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Thank you - this is the only answer that actually makes sense to me lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What makes a country Western? I would've thought the fact that they're so geographically close to other countries that are no doubt Western countries, and have a similar history as a former Spanish colony, have a majority Christian population, etc would count to make them a Western country. Obviously they have a very different mode of social organization to every other Western country, but if we're trying to find the best Western country and we exclude all the good ones what's the point?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Westernism has less to do with geography and more to do with ideology and fanatical adherence to white supremacist-coded capitalism

Otherwise, the phrase "Australia is a western country" wouldn't seem so normal despite its geographical ludicrousness

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

no we just had this one, you have to wait longer to have a struggle session on the same topic again.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

sicko-hyper it's my turn on the struggle sesh!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i gotta add butcher biden to my biden nickname tier list that is A tier for sure

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Genocide Joe is S tier tho

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

biden-fallconnolly-shining You ain't Irish, Jack

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm a republican

(What is it with the US and bastardizing political labels?)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

like having Loyalty Day on May 1 and "Labor" Day in September, anything that makes it harder to be an internationalist

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's called memorial day, actually. Memorial to oppression of course

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Memorial Day is at the end of May, it's different than the fake Labor Day in September and focused on chumps who died for empire

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Oh wow I completely switched them. They're totally different you see

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

She's been great forever. Redditors hate her because of her accurate Ukraine takes.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I wish Irish-Americans were even half as based as the residents of the country they pretend so hard to represent.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Come out you Biden dems c'mon and climb on out your fens

Tell Doc Jill how you been fightin' Trumpy MAGAs

And not how the US aid mostly been those bombs away

Killing children up and down inside of Gaza

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

best bit account on the site

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

That goes hard.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Hopefully this is the last thing Biden sees before he strokes out

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

#ButcherBiden #ButcherBiBi

It'd be pretty cool if we could get these trending and stay there until they stop.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I read Israel as Ireland at first but everything else seemed pro-Palestine (and Ireland) after that and was really really confused until I found my error

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I love Ireland, I love love love love love love love Ireland.

But, I wish they were capable of pronouncing 'th' correctly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Labiodental fricatives are bourgeois decadence

edit: how did no one call me out on saying labiodental instead of dental thus allowing me to leave this mistake up for three days. I'm so fucking embarassed

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

i can fix them.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Saw a great reply to someone else posting this that said something like "Clare Daly is no friend to muslims, she denies the Uyghur genocide and the Assad gas attacks."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Amazing, I wonder why that would be the case

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Whew laddie

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Tiochfaidh, and I cannot stress this enough, ár lá

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