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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: [email protected])

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

OK, we saw your post. You can leave now.

[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We joined this community because its on blahaj.zone.

We're not moving

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago

Seriously. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea should leave the community, so ultimately this may be a good thing, so long as this community is kept here and passed to other people.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago

Disappointing

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago

very sad. i can barely use lemmy.world communities as they take weirdly long to federate with my tiny instance. for example, from my instance i can only see the pinned posts on the new 196, and it has been pending subscription since yesterday.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sad. Pretty sure beehaw is defederated from world.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago
[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago

How about no?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

with many communities creating their own 196es.

Wow that's terrible, can anyone link some of those 196's so I can block them?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Time to make /196part two on Blahaj I guess.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

or we could get new moderators to ask for control of this comm

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Even better.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago

Please leave the community to someone else. We don't federate world and I like this community and so far Ada seems to be a good admin. You can still make 196 on world without destroying this one.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 day ago (5 children)

OK, I think I see where you're coming from. But lemmy.world already has several meme, shitpost, and microblog repost communities. Why does lemmy.world need c/196? Up til now the fact that it was on blahaj.zone was what made it stand out.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone whose home instance is LW, this is not a good idea. Like, at all. I suggest at least hosting some kind of poll, chances are if people disagree they'll just make a second community on this instance or another one regardless.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (8 children)

A move that has been months in the making but only now is getting announced? Has it been announced previously and I missed it or something? I get the motivation for the move, but this feels like the kind of decision that the users of the 196 should have gotten more of a chance to at least give feedback on what other instance 196 should be migrating to.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago

:(

.world is already way too centralized, and way less friendly. downhill we go I guess.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I agree with most others that this is a huge mistake, if only for moving to .world. Another larger community being on that instance sounds like a bad idea for the lemmy ecosystem, even if you wanted to move from blahaj.zone. I will continue to post and browse on 196, but if I start to feel unwelcome there, I will make it known.

The problem is that you're creating more work for yourself, even if you're as on top of moderation as you were here. If you get the additional reach that you're hoping for, you'll have to work much quicker at removing shit content than you did here. Now that 196 isn't on the openly queer instance, more bigots will feel like they can interact. This could lead to the community becoming less accepting in the long run, as queer people feel less safe and welcomed.

I have thick skin and often run towards conflicts other people won't, but I know that many users here aren't like me. If I start to feel it weighing on me, be confident that things have gone too far for most people on this instance.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 day ago (20 children)

To be honest, I think a big part of the 196 identity is that it comes from blahaj. Maybe the move will prove me wrong, but I can't imagine the energy will be the same.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

Don't do it, seriously I hope you're joking.

[–] [email protected] 156 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

I strongly disagree with this decision and the reasoning behind it. Blahaj is, in my opinion, the best place for this community specifically because of the strong moderation and policies of Ada and other admins here.

Lemmy.world is also the worst instance I can think of outside of the big three tankie instances. It contributes further to the centralization of Lemmy as a whole (since 196 has been one of the most active communities on the entire platform). In my opinion, the .world crowd's liberal and pro-colonialist/capitalist tendencies are a terrible fit for this community.

I'd have rather seen Blahaj defederate from .world than 196 move there, even if it meant less content and engagement. At least the cultural values of the community wouldn't have been compromised.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What rotten news.

If you want to move to some big reddit-like instance, then you move you and let the ones that what to meme in a safe space do it. As you've noticed, communities can't be moved to other instances. I would ask you to kindly take the hint.

imho you should simply start your far reaching 196 elsewhere and leave this one to be modded by someone else. Not everybody is fond of playing in traffic.

[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 day ago

For the love of god, leave this community here and just create a new mod team instead. This community being on Blåhaj specifically is a big plus for a lot of us

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago

Would you consider reconsidering?

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