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[–] [email protected] 144 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't get your hopes up. Merz would sell his own mother if it raised his chances of getting elected. He's just listening to what's unpopular about the current government and claiming to do whatever is the exact opposite. A lot of it is just hot air from yet another populist.

I expect him to continue support for Ukraine though, so that's good at least.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Hell, I'm in support of Merz selling his own mother if it means more support for Ukraine.

... I may be in a dark place right now.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Plot twist: his mom is the youth sweetheart of Putin from his vacations in East Germany, the break up is what turned him into a violent autocrat, her return could heal his little broken heart and make him the tsar of love and harmony.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's OK. If this. Message is popular it pushes his opponent in this direction too.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

It shouldn’t be that only one side wins, we need to make agreements that are favourable to both sides.

Yeah I really hope he means like, Russia fuck off to their side of the fence and everyone peel back sanctions, as opposed to give Russia some of the occupied territory

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly Merz does a lot of shit, but he is for pro Ukranian action, which is relativly unpopular. The issue is more, that he has never been in government and a lot of his other ideas are horrible.

Also the CDU is in parts very pro Russia. Kretschmer comes to mind.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Honestly Merz does a lot of shit, but he is for pro Ukranian action, which is relativly unpopular.

It's not unpopular, the Putin bootlickers just shout louder. The majority still approves supporting Ukraine: https://koerber-stiftung.de/presse/mitteilungen/deutsche-wollen-mehr-in-europaeische-sicherheit-investieren/

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[–] [email protected] 116 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Merz says a lot of things when the day is long, especially when elections are getting closer.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the perspective.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 week ago

Don't trust him. Merz is and always has been a bullshitter. He is angling for votes.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It’ll be interesting to see how much the Allies game kicks up in the next 2 months now that the Orange Potato and Elon Musk were elected President.

I hope it’s effective.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The new fragrance, Orange Potato Musk. Mmmmmm

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there any hint of a reason why Putin would ever be scared of Taurus missiles?
from a glance, they look very equivalent to the british storm shadows Ukraine already gets.

Not that Germany shouldn't supply, it just seems that this ultimatum is a purely political idea about the upcoming german elections.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Merz ist a Joke and he will most certainly not pull through if the Trump Administration interferes. Just another US Puppet, which in Turn is a Russian puppet... so yeah, just a stunt.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Also, what would even be the end of the war? By Putin logic complete and unconditional surrender by Ukraine would also be the end of the war.

Merz's threat is not "fuck off behind 1991 borders within 24 hours". Complete smoke and mirrors shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Noise from a political candidate who will do something if and when he gets elected.

To quote the Spartans, "If".

Glad to see someone in Europe is growing some balls about standing up to Russia though

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

sorry to break it to you, but Merz is a populist. He will tell you everything to get voted.

And, frankly, he is a real dickhead. The little Trump of Germany.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

The Spartans got annihilated so maybe not a great group to quote.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“I am also willing to promise anything to get elected”

  • slaacaa (LM-MY)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if something like this works (I am guessing only if many EU countries follow suit) then maybe us Americans can suffer 4 years of Trump in exchange for Ukrainian freedom.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

As an american, I'll suffer the bullshit that the right does, if it means Ukraine gets to still exist. Give me some of their pain. I wish I could take that for them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Oh I'm sure the thought of two dozen cruise missiles will straighten Putin out ASAP.

For starters, this would not be a new or unprecedented capability for the Ukrainians.

If Germany had several hundred to part with immediately, and the capacity to regularly replenish those stocks, that would make a significant difference on the battlefield, but I doubt it would make Putin sue for peace.

But of course, Germany does not have those kind of stockpiles or manufacturing capacity to maintain that.

Still, it would be nice to see more European politicians picking up the banner of supplying Ukraine in the face of likely diminished, or eliminated, American transfers.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, believe me...we have that manufacturing capabilities. I live near where parts of Taurus are made... It's just that there's no "demand" and the bundeswehr doesn't have enough money to just order them to stockpile.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Capability and capacity are two very different things.

Yes, I understand the manufacturing capability exists, but it's capacity is limited i.e. existing facilities could not maintain a strategically significant production volume relative to Ukraine's needs, much less to deter Putin.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The Taurus KEPD-350 is a German-Swedish air-launched cruise missile, manufactured by Taurus Systems ... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_KEPD_350

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Makes sense, that’s such a Taurus thing to do

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As a Libran, all I can launch are tampons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

As a pisces, I studied the blade.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow. The same "we'll easily end this war" bullshit that Trump is spewing. That didn't take long.

When this moron takes over (and he will), it's gonna get real bad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"End the war or I'll arm the shit out of Ukraine" is different from "end the war please daddy I'll let you have half of Ukraine."

Sounds like this guy is a piece of shit though so who knows.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Wow, I thought I was on NCD for a second.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Halt dein Maul, Merz!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

We are in WW3.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

what a muppet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Finally some leadership. Biden has been slow walking aid this entire war, to Russia's benefit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Let's see how big on words he is once he's out of opposition. Either way his leadership comes at the cost of him being a 90s style neo libertarian with his own private plane. Other than that he is conservative through and through.

So (I) expect no big investments into health care, education, green technology or public transport but more in tax cuts for the wealthy and investments into "new and revolutionary technologies that will solve all our problems for sure bro" and individual transport infrastructure (which tbh would actually be needed since the German infrastructure is in a pretty bad state with a lot of highway bridges being at the end of their life cycle but on the other hand schools and healthcare are in dire need of investments too). And for all the problems we just blame migrants and strengthen right wing populist positions.

Soo yeah, not really happy with him, not really happy with anyone else atm.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He is in the opposition…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not for much longer unfortunately. He will likely be elected the next chancellor when early elections happen sometime in the next months. It's also not unlikely that he will willingly form a coalition with the far-right extremist AfD that love to suck on Putin's tit and have supported the idea of Ukraine ceding territory to Russia.

He's a disgusting piece of shit and this is just him using Ukraine to fish for votes.

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