well, one thing i'll say in his favour: he did kill hitler.
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Is that really a Jimmy Carr joke? Pretty sure that's just something every school kid has heard
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Hitler had one good idea. Right at the end when he decided to shoot himself.
Reminds me of this great street art I saw posted at some point. Can't find the source though.
Apparently Hitler had a dog. So maybe reexamine your beliefs if you think dogs are good judges of character lol.
He wasn't "all bad", he apparently was very good with animals, like his dog Blondie. He was a vegetarian. And that's probably everything which wasn't bad. For the rest it's all completely fucked up bad. No doubt about it.
Oh and I just remembered he was very good at giving directions. "were do I need to go?" "Take the third reich"
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Judging by the latest election, the number seams a lot higher, more like three in five
One in five do not think Hitler was all bad. Two in five think he was better than a lady who laughs sometimes.
And the idiots that didn't bother to vote, accepted this outcome
My thoughts exactly. Wait though, actually that is the fault of Democrats, somehow. I'll get back to you on how
That's not fair phrasing and will lead to high numbers.
Hitler wasn't "all" bad technically, he was just so bad that the good shouldn't matter at all. Pushing forward technology (VW Beetle, Autobahn) should is no way be justified by genocide (obviously).
A better question would have been something like "do you like Hitler overall?"
The full poll data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf
Do you think of Adolf Hitler as. . . ?
- A completely good person: 1%
- A good person who did some bad things: 4%
- An equally good and bad person: 7%
- A bad person who did some good things: 12%
- A completely bad person : 65%
- Not sure : 12%
So 12% felt he was at least as good as he was bad, 12% fell into the 'well, even a horrible person can do something right, and 12% were somehow not sure...
This is interesting, thank you for sharing.
I personally would tally this up as "12%" rather than "24%".
Or at least in my opinion, option "D" (bad person that did some good things) is most likely the closest to an objective answer and "E" (completely bad) is a totally acceptable summary. But both D and E both summarize Hitler as bad. The people summarizing him as "balanced" or "good" totaled to 12%.
To be clear, this is still horrific imo.
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I’m pretty sure we know now that that number is a lot more than we originally thought.
Kind of a loaded question to include the word "all" but I understand the lack of faith or respect for the USA right about now.
This is how hitler came to power.
I wonder when we're gonna get the Reichstag fire
That was before he was elected, right? So the Reichstag fire was Jan 6. And the Trump history books will say it was Antifa.
I'll be honest, I'm not super familiar on the timeline.
I'm not looking forward to the future though, even less so than before :/
Oh well, we persevere
It's like watching a horror movie. You know the killer is in the basement, yet people go and have a look while the audience knows what's going to happen. A classic fuck around and find out.
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Fools never see evil until its at their door.
They see the evil but think it will be to their advantage because they aren't like "those people."
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23 percent of respondents said Hitler was a "good person or an equally good and bad person" or "a bad person who did some good things," data from YouGov showed.
What a bullshit poll. So basically anyone who recognizes he cared for a dog is seen as liking Hitler.
Anyone who said otherwise doesn't understand spectrums and is generally using black and white thinking, a sign of mental illness
That's a pretty wild interpretation of the question. It seems pretty clear the question is asking about opinion of his public acts.
I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.
Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...
It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."
--Michael Rosen.
It doesn’t walk in saying, “Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”
Yeah but evidently it does, and people still choose it.
American fascism certainly does say those things, but it's always other peoples' faces the leopards will be eating.
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We've got to stop talking about "if" and "when."
It's NOW. This is happening. We are watching the rise of the next Hitler, now, live, today. This isn't hypothetical anymore - yesterday just gave them carte blanche to go full stormtroopers.
At this point, all of our conversations need to be about how we stay safe in the wake.
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Hitler was nothing without the NSDAP and the fascist movement.
There were 915,000 Germans in the Waffen-SS.
In case you don't remember, what we're talking about here:
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Related: we've all heard the stories of a time traveler going back to kill Hitler before his rise to power. One common theme in almost all those stories is that the attempt fails, that's why history is as we remember. This morning has me thinking that maybe time travel was involved in a couple of Trump assassination attempts.
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Sure, Hitler passed some of the first anti-smoking laws.
That doesn’t excuse all the other awful awful things he did.
Also his anti smoking laws failed as the war went on longer and longer.
Obviously, Hitler even gave credit to Jim Crow policies as being an inspiration for his generic policies.
The dixiecrats aren't ashamed of that, game recognizes game.
And I'm guessing none of those Americans have had relatives who were actually living during WWII.
He wasn't. He killed Hitler after all
What a terrible question. He was an awful person but obviously nobody is all bad.
He only has one redeeming quality: killing Hitler.
but also he killed the guy who killed hitler
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We know, they just voted for him.
Definitely a lot more than that based on this election.
Ok, I get it, but we really should avoid looking at things/people like Adolfy as black or white - that just makes it a meme & loses actual historical/lecture value.
With Hitler being a one-dimensional idea/meme/brand instead of a human (supported by humans with rational human causes) I'm afraid we are doomed to repeat the same cycle of mistakes.
What I'm saying is that instead of education we have strong propaganda (after a specific date) that taught us this Hitler brand was just & only bad, like it was a spontaneous event. Instead of a full person & a nation (again full of actual people) with voting rights in irl situations.
And propaganda isn't free, it's financially fueled, which means it wants something in return.
Monsters are humans. We need to remember that, despite what we are preached.
I'm completely against his policies and actions for obvious reasons. I hate Nazis.
Still, I could probably be convinced to say that he wasn't 100% bad in every possible way.
Even the most evil people are complex human beings. There may be something good inside them at some point to some person, etc.
"All" is a very powerful word.
While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think 1 in 5 thought : "well, he's kind with his dog and an OK painter, I can't in good faith say he's completely bad"
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