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[–] [email protected] 23 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

More than one in five apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler had one good idea. Right at the end when he decided to shoot himself.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago

Reminds me of this great street art I saw posted at some point. Can't find the source though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

well, one thing i'll say in his favour: he did kill hitler.

(credit: jimmy carr)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Is that really a Jimmy Carr joke? Pretty sure that's just something every school kid has heard

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

That reminds me to rewatch Danger 5.

"Your mission... yada yada, and as always; Kill Hitler!"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

He wasn't "all bad", he apparently was very good with animals, like his dog Blondie. He was a vegetarian. And that's probably everything which wasn't bad. For the rest it's all completely fucked up bad. No doubt about it.

Oh and I just remembered he was very good at giving directions. "were do I need to go?" "Take the third reich"

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[–] [email protected] 225 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Judging by the latest election, the number seams a lot higher, more like three in five

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One in five do not think Hitler was all bad. Two in five think he was better than a lady who laughs sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago

And the idiots that didn't bother to vote, accepted this outcome

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

My thoughts exactly. Wait though, actually that is the fault of Democrats, somehow. I'll get back to you on how

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

I’m pretty sure we know now that that number is a lot more than we originally thought.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's not fair phrasing and will lead to high numbers.

Hitler wasn't "all" bad technically, he was just so bad that the good shouldn't matter at all. Pushing forward technology (VW Beetle, Autobahn) should is no way be justified by genocide (obviously).

A better question would have been something like "do you like Hitler overall?"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

The full poll data: https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Views_on_Hitler_poll_results.pdf

Do you think of Adolf Hitler as. . . ?

  • A completely good person: 1%
  • A good person who did some bad things: 4%
  • An equally good and bad person: 7%
  • A bad person who did some good things: 12%
  • A completely bad person : 65%
  • Not sure : 12%

So 12% felt he was at least as good as he was bad, 12% fell into the 'well, even a horrible person can do something right, and 12% were somehow not sure...

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago

Kind of a loaded question to include the word "all" but I understand the lack of faith or respect for the USA right about now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Apparently Hitler had a dog. So maybe reexamine your beliefs if you think dogs are good judges of character lol.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is how hitler came to power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder when we're gonna get the Reichstag fire

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's like watching a horror movie. You know the killer is in the basement, yet people go and have a look while the audience knows what's going to happen. A classic fuck around and find out.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fools never see evil until its at their door.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

They see the evil but think it will be to their advantage because they aren't like "those people."

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

--Michael Rosen.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It doesn’t walk in saying, “Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution.”

Yeah but evidently it does, and people still choose it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

American fascism certainly does say those things, but it's always other peoples' faces the leopards will be eating.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've got to stop talking about "if" and "when."

It's NOW. This is happening. We are watching the rise of the next Hitler, now, live, today. This isn't hypothetical anymore - yesterday just gave them carte blanche to go full stormtroopers.

At this point, all of our conversations need to be about how we stay safe in the wake.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

23 percent of respondents said Hitler was a "good person or an equally good and bad person" or "a bad person who did some good things," data from YouGov showed.

What a bullshit poll. So basically anyone who recognizes he cared for a dog is seen as liking Hitler.

Anyone who said otherwise doesn't understand spectrums and is generally using black and white thinking, a sign of mental illness

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's a pretty wild interpretation of the question. It seems pretty clear the question is asking about opinion of his public acts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Because being nice to a dog is not comparable with murdering 17 million people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know the definition of "all"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/50864-two-thirds-of-americans-say-hitler-was-completely-bad

There's no mention of "all bad" in the actual poll or YouGov analysis. That's just something that website added to drive traffic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago

Sure, Hitler passed some of the first anti-smoking laws.

That doesn’t excuse all the other awful awful things he did.

Also his anti smoking laws failed as the war went on longer and longer.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Related: we've all heard the stories of a time traveler going back to kill Hitler before his rise to power. One common theme in almost all those stories is that the attempt fails, that's why history is as we remember. This morning has me thinking that maybe time travel was involved in a couple of Trump assassination attempts.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Obviously, Hitler even gave credit to Jim Crow policies as being an inspiration for his generic policies.

The dixiecrats aren't ashamed of that, game recognizes game.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hitler was nothing without the NSDAP and the fascist movement.

There were 915,000 Germans in the Waffen-SS.


In case you don't remember, what we're talking about here:

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

And I'm guessing none of those Americans have had relatives who were actually living during WWII.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago (15 children)

What a terrible question. He was an awful person but obviously nobody is all bad.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (4 children)

He only has one redeeming quality: killing Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago

but also he killed the guy who killed hitler

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

We know, they just voted for him.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago

Definitely a lot more than that based on this election.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ok, I get it, but we really should avoid looking at things/people like Adolfy as black or white - that just makes it a meme & loses actual historical/lecture value.

With Hitler being a one-dimensional idea/meme/brand instead of a human (supported by humans with rational human causes) I'm afraid we are doomed to repeat the same cycle of mistakes.

What I'm saying is that instead of education we have strong propaganda (after a specific date) that taught us this Hitler brand was just & only bad, like it was a spontaneous event. Instead of a full person & a nation (again full of actual people) with voting rights in irl situations.
And propaganda isn't free, it's financially fueled, which means it wants something in return.

Monsters are humans. We need to remember that, despite what we are preached.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

He wasn't. He killed Hitler after all

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