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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It would've been funny if immediately after casting his vote he dissolved into a beautiful light

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He disappears in a flash of light. In his wake, he leaves an affordable housing complex behind.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Also, a lifetime supply of peanuts to all residents who aren't allergic 🥜

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And it’s a Georgia vote so it matters.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

This is actually an interesting legal edge case. What happens if someone casts an absentee ballot, but then dies before election day? It turns out that it's actually very state-specific. Half of states have no provisions for how such a case is handled. Of those that address it, some explicitly allow the votes to be counted, and some explicitly prohibit these votes to be counted.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/counting-absentee-ballots-after-a-voter-dies

It's a pretty interesting bit of legal trivia. The whole principle of absentee ballots is that you are not really casting your vote 'early.' It's not like they publish the results of absentee ballots ahead of time. Really you're effectively saying, "I can't make it on election day." An argument can be made that they shouldn't be counted. Why should someone who happens to get a ballot in early and dies be able to have their vote counted, but someone who was planning to vote on election day, but died in the interim, won't have it counted? On the other hand, a good argument can be made that we shouldn't punish those who plan ahead, and as a general rule we just accept the ballots out of respect for the recently deceased. It's interesting that the states that count them or don't are distributed fairly randomly across regions and the political spectrum; it's not really a partisan thing.

But it is a bit of legal trivial that yes, in some states, the dead are literally allowed to vote under certain very specific circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago

the electoral college used by slave states to pad their votes with the 3/5ths compromise would like to have a word with you.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago

Yes, but some much more than others.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All votes should matter. Thanks to gerrymandering and the electoral college rules, not a lot actually do

Specifically for president. They absolutely matter for local elections.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No president is perfect. Some are much worse or much better than others. The US would greatly benefit from having more Jimmy Carters as president.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Remember when there was a crisis at a nuclear power plant, and the president rushed to the scene...to help, because he's a qualified nuclear engineer? I don't, I wasn't born yet when that happened.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've already come to view Jimmy Carter as an unappreciated rockstar, and I didn't even know this story. I just Googled it for those interested. It doesn't seem like it was when he was president, but still completely badass/downright heroic.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wasn't either. But when I heard the story I wished we would have another president who cared like that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And was an engineer or someone else who has had a job that actually matters.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Honestly I feel like career politicians are part of the problem. We need people who have done other jobs and have experience outside of political circles. No more actors or reality stars though, I don't think this country could survive more of those lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not all roses and rainbows: Thatcher was a chemical engineer, and the only thing she engineered while in power was the downfall of England as a world power.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

My dad always said Jimmy Carter was too good of a man to be a good president.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

His failure was not including Washington insiders into his cabinet. It's the lesson that people often forget. The president can't be a total outsider and expect to be successful.

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[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I was actually wondering about this, since a close relative of mine probably won’t make it to election day: if you legally cast your ballot (mail in or absentee), but die before Election Day, does your vote still count?

[–] [email protected] 226 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yea. Not only that, when you hear about "dead people voting", this is often the explanation.

[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 days ago

Also the thousands of people who die on election day, a non-zero number of which voted earlier that day.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The other big chunk is people who have the same or a similar name. Like "It says here David Jones died five years ago, but David Jones voted today. Suspicious?" "Dude, I'm David Jones Jr. The David Jones who died was my dad, David Jones Sr. Dick." Or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I am a IIIrd, the third person down my male line with the same first, middle, and last name

I'm the 5th with our exact initials, too

One time, while applying for college, I was told I'd already used my GI bill allotment back in '55. Uh..... That was grandpa, and he died over 30 years before I was born, how did you mix us up?!?!

(Also, I was never in the military and this was entirely irrelevant to me they just brought it up as something I couldn't do)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depends on the state. Looks like Carter is registered in Georgia. According to an article from 2020 when Republicans were bald face lying that long dead people were voting a lot, someone from the Georgia Secretary of State's office is quoted as saying secrecy rules don't allow rejecting a ballot when a voter dies before Election Day.

“You can’t go back and get that ballot back out. It’s just physically impossible, given the privacy rules in our state,”. May or may not still be accurate, or may have never been accurate, but that's what the first article I found when searching says.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And let's hope he lives to see her elected.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Even better if he sees Trump in prison.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 days ago

Early voting is voting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

inb4 he dies of a heart attack immediately after casting his vote

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

it's georgia so i'm expecting them to invalidate it somehow and probably after he's died so that no one can fight it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And if he dies before the election, they will accuse him of voter fraud.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Diane Feinstein and Mitch McConnell both served in Congress well after they died.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago

What a lifetime this man has experienced.

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