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[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (3 children)

One of, if not the first major book burning in Nazi Germany occured on May 6th, 1933, at the Institute of Sexology, a foundation known for their advocacy for transgender and homosexual equality.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Trans people didn't exist in the past."

You literally destroyed our history to perpetuate this myth. We'll never erase your history, just show how it was a lie undeserving of respect.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

When you're on the right side of history it's better to leave history intact. It shows what you had to fight. When you're on the wrong side you need it destroyed, so people don't realize how bad you are.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's quite interesting that academics back then knew homosexuality and transgenderism are completely normal and not aberrations. Even Sigmund Freud also agreed.

It's just that society as a whole has been completely anti-lgbt. I always say it is the relic of homophobic teachings from Abrahamic religions. Ancient Greeks and Romans were completely fine with homosexuality until Christianity became enforced in Europe and elsewhere; then later Islam came along and did the same.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

Eh, this is a bit of a half-thruth. Ancient Romans did not really categorize by sexual preference, but by gender roles taken on during sex. They basically had a penetrator-penetrated dichotomy, and taking on a "female" role was definitely shameful for men in their society, and taking on a "male" role as a woman would have been seen as a pretty big transgression, too.

This more or less continued into medieval and early modern times, until homosexuality was understood and categorized as an identity and concept. Together with a complete ignorance towards women's sexuality, this lead to punishment of lesbians being rather rare (non-penetrative sex was basically not recognised as sex), while homosexual men were punished for basically perverting gender roles of sex (also for "forcing" a "female" role on another man), instead for viewing them as having a differing identity.

While religion played a huge role to justify the discrimination of homosexuals, I'd say the root cause is the ideological imperative of maintaining sexuality as something to produce offspring, patriarchical dominance, and having women maintain their identity for sexual gratification and reproduction unless they manage to get into a monastery or similar exceptional roles (and an inherent fear of men to fall out of the male gender identity and being objectified in the same ways). That's why this is also not just an abrahamic phenomenon, but has been pretty widespread in patriarchal societies overall, although often with exceptions for "penetrating" men maintaining their status and power.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Look up Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld and his gender affirming care in early 20th century Germany. The Berlin "Institut für Sexualwissenschaft" was the world's first trans clinic from 1919 until the Nazis destroyed it 1933.

Watch Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hate about Berlin's vibrant trans community and how the rise of the nazis destroyed them.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It makes me feel icky to type it out... The terms "tranny" and "transvestite" were very common nomenclature in the 90s. In conversation, movies, television. Trans people were often a punchline. And absolutely existed.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Electronic music pioneer and fuckin LEGEND Wendy Carlos, thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

SRS in this context means sexual reassignment surgery. It also has many other meanings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Supplemental restraint system

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The first programmer was a woman (Ada Lovelace), the person who laid the foundation for all modern computing was gay (Alan Turing), and the person who revolutionized modern chip design was trans (Lynn Conway). Computer science history is filled with queerness and diversity.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How dare you forget Sophie Wilson, inventor of the ARM chip (which exists in literally every phone pretty much since... 1997?) 😆

She also partakes in Europython (though not sure if she joined this year, but she was there last year, even though I missed both xD), for the Python nerds.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Oh wow I didn't know she was trans, that's super cool

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

5 years ago...

5 years ago was 2019, that statement is equally funny as it is horrifying

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Five years ago a friend celebrated the 12th anniversary of her vaginoplasty...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If you live under a stone, that might be your first time hearing that trans people exist.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Nah, it was around the time trans people became heavily politicized and their weekly outrage sources told them to be mad about it

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wasn't germany famously fucking around with some shit relevant to this before the whole "hitler arc"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

sociology and psychology and one of the more fascinating concepts.

The fact that people try to argue that trans people simply did not exist prior to a few years ago is amusing to me.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How long until chuds will claim historical records of trans people are falsified?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Already have seen this. I have seen arguments pointing out what the Nazis did to trans people, the first clinic for trans people, and the research materials on it, get met with replies that it's revisionist, fraudulent, jewish, propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

JK Rowling did that not too long ago. (She didn't call it Jewish, but absolutely called it lies and propaganda that trans people and trans researchers were early targets for the Nazis and victims of the Holocaust.)

I don't say this to obsess over the Harry Potter author, but to point out that you don't have to go cherry picking to find this shit. She's a prominent person using her platform to spread bigotry and misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

oh yeah, i know about her, she is putting that stuff into the mainstream. Worst part is, she is likely so touchy about this because of her own gender identity issues that she has ignored rather than resolve.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Worth noting: a lot of the material from that German trans clinic in the 1920s-30s was destroyed by the doctors themselves. Y'know. To protect their patients from the god-damned Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just wish more people would talk about her music instead of her gender. I know she's bitter or dissatisfied about Switched on Bach, but I still listen to it regularly. There aren't many pieces of instrumental music that can actually make me laugh, but it does. Bach works on synth so well. Largely due to Carlos' efforts.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

why trans people make music and not massive 8ft tall burger

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

¿Por que no las dos?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Also, Angela Morley whose best known work these days is the score to the movie that traumatised an entire generation of kids.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are They the ones with the sick sideburns playing with a homemade synth in that video from the 70s?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

She was ahead of her time

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (4 children)

My closest friend in grade school (circa 2010) is trans. Was it really that unusual to personally know trans people until recently?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think a lot of the people currently freaking out about it have been, either individually or collectively, throwing red flags their entire life that say, "I am dangerous to anyone who does not conform to cis-hetero-normative culture," and trans people have wisely avoided them where possible and stayed in the closet where not.

One of my close friends' parents don't know they're trans because they know for a fact how badly they would react. They're conservatives and they're transphobic. It's stopping my friend from transitioning.

Now trans people are in the news and those same transphobic people are wondering where they've all come from and they're reacting in exactly the hostile way that the trans people who avoided them had predicted.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Nope, that's the point.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hell yes, fucking slay queen!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

She is the goddess of synthesizers and one of the first people I stumbled upon when I was learning about synths: https://youtu.be/UsW2EDGbDqg

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I had the switched on Bach cassette when I was a kid. I thought it was cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn0HAWX1TSA&list=PLLICd7vQi7iGUyErozBAwgcr4F49kxiXY

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

She was not only a master composer, she also helped with the development of the Moog synthesizer, the first commercial synth.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You left your SI in that link. It's a tracking code Google uses to tell who you've been talking to on other websites.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Thanks. Got rid of it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yo! I didn’t know she was trans!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

As a kid I listened to Walter Carlos' Switched on series, and was the kind of nerd to be a huge fan at the time. Then suddenly Wendy Carlos was continuing Walter's work and claiming she was responsible for everything Walter had done.

I was like ten, and we didn't have the internet or even CDs yet, so it sound like a sibling or marital spat, and eventually the news trickled down they were one and the same.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I saw this a while back on TikTok and had to dig up my memory of this. Around 2014 I was reading an article about the person who did some of the VFX for Tron: Legacy. I bookmarked it. At some point the link was dead. Turns out they came out as trans. I don't know if her site redesign/domain name has anything to do with that but it seeing this post always reminds me of that. https://jtnimoy.cc/item.php%3Fhandle=14881671-tron-legacy.html

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Every year, millions of trans folks are detransitioned against their will by the 5 year hard limit.

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