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[–] [email protected] 311 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both variants are pretty wtf to me. Not necessarily showing the pictures but explicitly pointing out their genitals.

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[–] [email protected] 224 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I would argue the top picture is also a big no no.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I thought that is the point

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (30 children)

Dark Arc is saying that it is generally considered a bad thing, contrary to the comic which is implying that it is generally considered good or neutral when it should be considered bad.

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[–] [email protected] 127 points 5 months ago (20 children)

I get a chuckle about Ultra sound images as well. It's fine if a woman wants to post those photos of her insides on the Internet. But I'm the bad guy if I say "Jessica pop that pussy open let's see it in person."

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it might be the clinical word vagina vs wee wee, but vajayjay still would be weird in this context. Honestly, dont show strangers your kids genitals.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Yes, all genitals seem weird to show people. I don't even show them to my parents. I tried not to take them at all, and instead tried to take a few with angles that obscured any private areas. I think my parents have seen a couple of those, but I don't even send them.

Perhaps the comic is from the mindset 40 years ago. I could easily see parents of that era doing this and thinking it was fine.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 5 months ago (238 children)

Eh. I have plenty of pictures of my daughter naked as a baby. The weird part of this is showing off the naked picture to a stranger on the bus and making mention of the genitals in specific.

Anyway, everyone knows that naked baby pictures are used to torture children in front of their serious romantic partners brought home for the first time. This has not happened in my 14-year-old daughter's life yet, but I hope to one day have this privilege that comes with parenting.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My response, when my mom showed my first partner naked baby pictures was to nudge my partner and say "don't worry, I'll send you some more recent ones.

My mom super didn't appreciate the joke, but she never pulled out baby pictures for future partners.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

LOL, mom busted out the baby pics for every gf. My. Turn.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

Gonna show your new step dad all the naked pics of your mom you have?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never knew it was acceptable to do this with boys

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It is. My mom did it. I've seen many other moms do it.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (2 children)

His issue was phrasing. The woman used a euphemism which significantly shifted her perceived intentions. “Look at his little wee-wee” is far removed from “look at his little penis.” Synonyms are not created equal, so simply substituting without considering connotation will only cause confusion. He should have said “get an eyeful of her little vagina.”

[–] [email protected] 126 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look at her little vajayjay, nope still weird.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gawk at her crack, mate!

Nope.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gander her bandersnatch

Hmm

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think if he referred to it as her little pussy or cunny it would make it significantly worse.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (15 children)

That's more adult slang for vagina. Little kid euphemism would be something like hooha or twinkle.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

Man saying that to another man is still questionable. Still sounds like he’s lending his child out for drugs.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

I feel.like we generally give women a pass on A LOT of weird behaviors about children.

That does include elevated attention to the genital area (seriously, why? Leave our genitals alone ffs), borderline fetishizing breastfeeding, and also a lot of other stuff.

Like, for example, I had several women independently telling me how baby feces smell nice and milky. Like, what the hell and why do y'all feel it's appropriate for a casual conversation???

Or that they love to smell baby feet. Huh? Funny thing I first got those stories after seeing a TV ad (was a while ago) with a woman burying her face in baby feet.

I can only assume this is either a result of hormonal shifts throughout pregnancy, or that there's plenty more female pedophiles than we knew.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

People are too weird about genitals. Our culture finds it so uncomfortable to talk to their sons about cleaning their penis that we started cutting the foreskin off to spare them the embarrassment.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

Depends where in the world you are. In the US it was popularized by Dr Kellogg to curb masturbation. He also recommended a few drops of carbolic acid applied to young girls clits to damage the nerves and avoid what he called "abnormal excitement".

Dude was opposed to pretty much anything even vaguely resembling pleasure, he invented corn flakes as a food to be as bland and tasteless as possible. The only reason they ever became a popular breakfast cereal is because of his brother adding sugar to them despite Kelloggs objections

'cleanliness' and 'looking like their father' were later justifications after the practice had already gained traction.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

About smell :
"In 2021, inhalation of hexadecanal was found to reduce aggression in men but to trigger aggression in women.[4] Hexadecanal is one of the most abundant substances emitted by human babies from their heads, which may be an evolutionary survival mechanism to induce mothers to defend the baby and fathers to not attack it. But it is not yet known whether the amount of hexadecanal emitted by humans is sufficient to affect other humans."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecanal

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

women are pure. they can talk about a baby's genitalia and it's cute. if a man wants to be a kindergarten teacher, though, whoa, pedophile alert!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (3 children)

My mom was one of those top ladies. 😬

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago

It's OK kolanaki, I find your wee wee very cute too

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I mean, penises are just inherently funny. Look at them, they’re ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (41 children)

You guys want to consider gender in vacuum but it is never a good idea.

Look at the sexualisation and brainwashing of the girls and patriarchy and men having this big power gap and sometimes using it in the most monstrous of the ways even today let alone 100 years ago. This is why the second image is big wtf while the first is small wtf.

That’s because in the first no one would immediately think that they sexualise the boy while in the second we arrive at this conclusion immediately and without hesitation thanks to all the hard work of men thorought history.

I know having this original sin of your fathers on your shoulders is not a cool feeling but this is the reality we are in.

The sooner this collective PTSD heals and that can only happen after some time of treating women as humans, the better for everyone. Problem is that point in history is far, far away considering the core issue is still prevalent.

It will take another 100 years of intense education and raising new generations to have the society that isn’t obviously fucked up and deeply hurt.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No one in the picture or the audience is sexualizing little girls (or boys). Instead, the outrage is caused by harmful expectations of purity that are imposed on girls and women, but not boys. As well as the current moral panic about pedophilia, which again is unhelpful in actuality protecting children.

Want to protect help children from predators? Help them remove the stigma around their bodies and sex, and empower them to speak and be heard when something they don’t like happens. Failing to do so reinforces the feelings of shame that all too often enable predators to get away with what they do.

And maybe also don’t share potentially embarrassing photos without consent but that’s small potatoes compared to the above issues.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Help them remove the stigma around their bodies and sex, and empower them to speak and be heard when something they don’t like happens.

This. So much this. If auntie wants to give them a kiss and they don't want to get slobbered then tough fucking luck auntie, I'll back the little shits up when they bite you. Predators are, by and large, able to do what they do because people don't teach kids that they do, in fact, have bodily autonomy.

And while I'm at it bodily autonomy of kids also implies that parents don't parade photos around like some fucking trophy or something. Have some basic fucking regard for your own kids and what they want. How would you feel when they're showing nude pictures of you to their classmates yeah I thought so.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Having had four kids, if you are showing people pictures of any baby in the bath naked, they're gonna be upset no matter the gender. I don't think his is true at all.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wish I could burn half my mother's photo albums.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

You can. Just not yet

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