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Maybe because it’s the only way many without generational wealth can afford to live.

Honestly at this point there are only a handful of headlines that cover about 90% of news stories:
-Young people 'choose' lifestyle choice that was forced upon them by external conditions.
-Young people are 'killing industry' that they are not paid enough to even dream of participating in.
-Rich person/people found guilty of or admitted to enormous crime will go unpunished.
-Someones totally unqualified opinion on a subject that we're reporting as news because they're rich.
-World ending, shareholders rejoice.

By choosing, I think we mean that it's not an affordable luxury to do otherwise

"Why aren't the poors having more workers??" - the same people continually reducing the status and security of the working class

Choosing or forced to choose?

"choosing"

they arent choosing it.

They are being forced into it because its the only fucking way to have a chance at NOT being homeless and crippled.

Less of a choice and more of a survival tactic. Plus, my foregone children would thank me.

No one should have a child unless they are willing to commit themselves to that child 100%. I have a daughter. She's the most wonderful thing that ever happened to me. And if anyone willingly took substantially less effort than I've taken to try to raise her in a safe, healthy environment and prepare her for her future as best I can- fuck you, you should have worn a fucking condom.

No child deserves to be neglected.

I make ~$200K a year. As a father of 5, I wish I had not had a single one. I love them, but the stress of taking care of them coupled with the future of the planet makes me regret life choices.

My wife finally are in a point where we can afford to have children, but we are kinda getting a bit old to have children. So we are also choosing the dual income no children life style,

But a big part of that is our age and how long it took to get to a comfortable place financially.

Now we want to focus on saving for a house and retirement.

What choice do they have if kids are basically unaffordable?

“When we advise clients about having children, we honestly don’t even give them the full real details and the real numbers,” said Shannon McLay, founder of The Financial Gym. “It’s one of those things if you see the math of it all, it might make you decide to not have children.”

what a whole generation of pulling the ladder up behind you will do to a society. Party of family values doing everything they possibly can to destroy familes.

Because we can't afford our own lives, how are we supposed to support children? Not even taking into account for how absolutely fucked we all are. Our planet is dying, how can we bring children into this world if it's all falling apart?

Put the value back into my income then, ye cunts.

I make the same number as my dad used to. His was a different currency but the number was the same which makes it awfully simple to put everything into perspective.

His house: 350 Mine: a little under half the size: 900

I'm already down 550 in comparison.

His insurance: 90 Mine: 160

I'm down 620.

His medicine cost and doctor visits: basically zero. Mine: 385 and half the medicine comes out of pocket nowadays.

This difference is hard to put into perspectice as the 385 is once a year and medicine depends on the situation.

Him: unemployed wife, groceries cost about 200 for a full month, owns a car and has 4 children.

Me: wife works and has a hobby that makes money, no car because no money left. Groceries: we eat about 2/3rd of what they did and pay 200 a week. No children.

We are down 1220 if we forget about insurance and medicine. I don't make 1220 more than he did.

Fuck this hellhole, you stole our life and i hope there is a hell for you scumbags.

Gee, it's almost like it's important for the long term success of society to have systems in place that make sure it's not a burden to create new people to take over for your generation after their bodies are too old and broken to keep working and society functioning.

Then again, the decisions have already been made by the people with the power to make them, and technology/automation are in line to replace workers. They'll be a little loud and problematic until the numbers naturally even themselves out, but we'll be left with an enlightened society of capitalist asset owners being supported by a massive technological network.

"choosing".

Articles like this are not for you and me. These are written for investors.

Friend of mine wanted kids. Can't afford it. Both her and her partner work full time, though money was too tight for them to feel comfortable. It's heartbreaking, really.

"Choosing"

Why the fuck would I want to subject my own children to the inevitability of human suffering? I'm not going to make the same mistake my parents made.

If the world collapses because there are no more children, I'll consider it my greatest accomplishment before ending it all on my own terms.

Kids? In this economy?

What could rasing a child cost? 10$?

Living that DINK life and still having trouble keeping out of debt. I can't imagine having to cover for kids, too.

The world needs fewer people.

Im a DINK! Just this year we bought a house, vacationed in Europe and are installing a new heat pump system. I interact with my friends kids and have nieces and nephews. I get to be the fun one and if someone poops or gets sick I can return them. It's like skipping right to the grandparent stage. I don't hate kids or look down on parents like some child free communities but I don't envy them at all. I totally get why DINKness is on the rise. Hopefully the stigma reduces as it become more common.

"Choosing"

"But we need your children to grow up and produce product and more children so that we can continue the cycle of funneling the value they create into the pockets of our society's most wealthy and well connected!"

This is similar to the "correlation doesn't equal causation" fallacy.

Dual income and no kids, is due to the prospect of cost of living and raising a family out pacing income. Housing, vehicle, child care, tuition, are all the items pricing middle class out of options.

DINK is not a choice, if anything, it's more the result of not having the luxury to choose.