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[–] [email protected] 81 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It really bugs me that someone highlighted and circled this as if they found this ironic error when it was written as a joke headline in the first place and it went clear over their head. The equivalent of red circles and arrows on thumbnails

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, I agree. Believe me, I really searched for one without highlighting but to no avail.

Edit:

I know this is 10 years old, but it's the best source I could find. It seems as though it is unclear whether this was intentional: https://cosmosmagazine.com/science/mathematics/naughty-numbers-in-the-news/?amp=1

It is still not clear whether the classic, “‘We hate math,’ say 4 in 10 – a majority of Americans”, was a clever joke or stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It was probably Jay Leno.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

~~4 out of 10 can be the majority if you include Neutral, Dislike, Like, Love as options.~~

Edit I think I'm dumb

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

Take it math wasn't your favourite subject.

Respect for leaving that up though.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Just fyi, that would be a plurality

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Considering how the term majority is used in politics. I don't blame you

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Part of the problem is academics sticking to the rote lecture-lab model of teaching mathematics, which sucks and has for centuries.

Learning science has developed some alternatives, including more increments between here are the expression transfigurations you need to memorize and here are some homework problems that require you to apply those formulas at mastery and take some intuitive leaps in the meantime.

I'm a failed Computer Science major, and math is, as I've experienced it typically taught by professors who love and breathe mathematics, and struggle to imagine how it can be so unclear for the rest of us. While I have great respect for math nerds, they are trying to show their work for the rest of us, when it happened too fast in their own heads to cleanly break it down into steps.

So yeah, some day when education isn't as politicized and gets some funding, we'll get easier math. But not today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I'm a comp sci major and many of my classmates do not write anything down. They just scribble some stuff down to do some minor calculations and finish the problem. When I ask them for help and to provide their work, they tell me they don't write down their work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

social pressure

women and girls are actively discouraged from engaging in math & science by:
teachers (dont sweat it honey, you'll make a smart man very happy with those looks)
men (i dont want to be with a smarter woman because it makes me feel inferior)
women (ew who wants a dorky nerd girl, borinnnng)

you get all that in math class as a 12-year old girl and yeah you start to associate math with unhappiness

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Plus "math skills" is one of those areas where stereotypes and self-fulfilling prophesies have incredibly influential power.

Math is difficult for everyone, and emotional factors like, "having the confidence of yourself and your peers" are important in making it through difficulty.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're right, but the text sounded mysogynistic in my head.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

The only difference between bigotry and compassion is attribution of cause.

Women are usually worse at math and science than men. Absolutely true fact. But why?

See also: Racial minorities being poorer, worse educated, and more inclined to steal. It's true! Now tell me why it's true. Trans people have higher rates of mental illness, self-harm, and suicide. No argument that this is true, it's rampant. But why is it true?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

OMZ, it wasn’t even a solid 4/10. The text implies that they rounded up to four. wtf

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

This is a Republican majority. It's the new math they use to make it so that when the Senate vote is 51-49 and Republicans are the 49 they win, or when they lose the popular vote for president they still win.