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There's the meme of the rich dude who is leering down towards the reader, judgementally.
Text under the image: People who smoke cigarettes judging people who vape
At the end of the day, the modern hate for nicotine addicts is based in classism, as is most hate for addicts. Look at the demographics at the picture is clear. Ya'll just hate the poor and disenfranchised and look for excuses to paint over it.
no it's just nasty
Sure, but I'd be willing to bet you express the same disdain for addicts of all stripes, who are predominantly impoverished. Instead of directing your disgust at the power structures and systemic issues that create the situation, you punch down.
no I don't and also I'm not rich in the slightest it's not punching down it's only cigarettes and weed that stink that bad of course I hate the tobacco companies and the government for allowing them to prey on addicts but that doesn't change the fact that it stinks and I don't wanna ever smell it or breathe in their second hand smoke
I don't like drug addicts for trashing public places, making them unsafe, for stealing to make money for drugs and so on.
Dunno if it's just some innate classism but getting threatened in the subway seems more like some druggie freaking out than a class conflict tbh.
Idk man cigarettes smell fucking awful. Vapes at least don't smell awful and aren't as bad for you.
Then explain the hate for those who try to switch to vaping. It is classism, through and through.
the hate is about teens who vape as a trend and how marketers did that intentionally with bright colours and fruity flavours and young attractive celebrities popular with teens younger people were less likely to smoke every year more and more disgusted by it then scumbag marketers took vapes and turned them into a trend and now kids are back to smoking it's better sure but it's still bad and most vapers aren't doing it to quit smoking eventually or even just to atleast switch to vapes most started with vaping vapes aren't just a better alternative to cigarettes and maybe a path to quitting anymore they're now the tobacco industries rebrand
I think this is just a case of correlation doesn't equal causation.
People in higher socioeconomic groups tend to consume mind-altering substances in smaller quantities, and often don't consume the more harmful ones (i.e. cigarettes) at all. Largely because higher socioeconomic status is correlated with higher quality of life and less need to "cope". As a result the negative affects are seen as less of a downside since the short-term positive mental effects are more impactful to those who have a lower quality of life.
In lesser words, people who have shitty lives are more likely to opt for less healthy habits to lessen suffering in the short term, despite increased risk of long term side effects.
Most people couldn't care less if the person smoking on the corner is wealthy or poor. It's gross either way.
I think self harm is bad, not matter if you're rich or poor :)
(also smokers make me smell their smoke)
What a load of shit. I don't hate addicts of any substance, but refusing to tolerate defense or promotion of terrible substances themselves isn't hating addicts. Wanting to ban sale of cigarettes or vapes to new users, terribly unhealthy ways to consume an exceptionally addictive substance, isn't fucking classist. So long as you lobby to fix the terrible conditions that lead people to consume such substances, you can use the law to limit their harm and target those that profit from it.
This sort of argument is overly simplistic and stupid at best, but reeks of bad faith bullshit that promotes the interests of evil corporations while acting like it's woke.
Smokers and vapers are both disgusting.
Can't say I hate the flavours of vapes as much as I hate cigarette smell
The nonsmoking gods peeking at what those foolish mortals are up to
A lot of people here seem to hate smokers in generall, I assume it's due to their culture, since smoking is pretty normal in my country and europe in generall
I only hate smokers who smoke in the presence of others :)
(I'm european and I'm aware that includes a very large amount of people)
I only hate smokers out of jealousy, but it's not real hate. Probably too much story, but here in The Derp South smoking is pretty engrained with the poverty. I started cigars when I was 18 and then cigarettes. I was told at 31 just before my December birthday I had five years to live if I didn't quit smoking ( I know that was likely not accurate, but I was in rough shape). I was at 42% lung capacity and already had PAD and was diagnosed with COPD. I'm 42 and January 1st will be 11 years without a cigarette. I am at 86% lung capacity and am no longer considered to have COPD. I also miss smoking dearly and fucking loved it. Tell cigarettes I said hi and I'm sorry we can't be together.. Lol
Then there's those that view both groups as the same
At least tobacco is an all natural plant-based alternative to vaping.
That’s amusing since the kinds of people who smoke cigs are generally trash.
"My vape is less harmful than your cigarette."
"Wimp. Too good to get cancer?"