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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This meme is giving "I have only played Ubisoft/ea/actizard titles for the past 4 years" and I mean do whatever you want but it seems silly to complain about games you continue to buy no?

I loved Pokemon, but it hasn't really changed in like 20 years. I'll play some romhacks, maybe I'll "try out" a newer pokemon game, but I haven't bought one since like omega ruby/alpha sapphire. The point I'm making is if we stop buying repetitive garbage, we can bring the small devs up and let them determine the course of game design moving forward.

Or I mean you can just.... Keep playing assassin's creed: (insert vague cultural name here) I guess

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This meme is giving "I have only played Ubisoft/ea/actizard titles for the past 4 years" and I mean do whatever you want but it seems silly to complain about games you continue to buy no?

Mate, the first line says it's talking about AAA games.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean there are good AAA games. From soft still puts out bangers, CD projekt red makes some good stuff (the cyberpunk launch was pretty rough though), larian is pretty good. Most AAA studios are dog shit, but you can still find a few diamonds in the rough.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the twist is that several of the points in the meme are about The Witcher 3 specifically. Between that and Cyberpunk I'm not ever trusting anyone about a CDPR game being good again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm just a fanboy but I'm not seeing much in this list that applies to Witcher at all except maybe the crafting, and the tiddies, but to that point if you're going to dunk on a game for having good graphics then I don't understand you. Same for Cyberpunk. They were both genuinely pretty damn good games that I enjoyed a lot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

CDPR makes amazing graphics and nobody can take that away from them. However, neither game's story hooked me, the gameplay in both felt frustrating and clunky to me, I hated both Geralt and Silverhand (particularly the latter, his nagging was the last straw), I didn't care for any of the supporting cast, every cutscene felt twice as long as it needed to be, the physics in both are hilariously bad, and so on and so forth. And both of these have been shoved at me from all sides, hailed as the best game ever or whatever, and I couldn't stand playing them.

I can understand having different taste. What I don't understand is the weird need people have to whiteknight for popular games when people don't like them for reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I actually agree about both games feeling clunky as fuck to play, and struggling to engage with the stories. I always thought I was insane because everyone tells me how good the Witcher is.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I actually had Cyberpunk in mind because my friend is currently obsessed and acts like the issue is that I failed at liking it and need to be fixed by having it crammed down my throat. I'm a brokeass with very few dollars to vote with but hard agree on "stop giving big studios money for making franchise shovelware", especially those three you mentioned and also bethesda.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you played the 2.0 version and didn't like it, then fair. However, if you played the older version, it might be worth giving it another go. I had low expectations and was extremely pleasantly surprised, plus it looks amazing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If I still have to put up with Johnny Silverhand then no sale, I had issues with the game beyond the bugs and emptiness of the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can understand not liking Johnny that much, but I can't understand hating him to the point that you think the gaming industry has fallen. That's not really a make or break thing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

whoa whoa whoa, who in the fuck said "Johnny Silverhand means the game industry is over"? CDPR's trash writing and poor design decisions aren't killing any industry.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Might be wrong but you made it seem like Cyberpunk killed your faith in the games industry, so my bad if I'm wrong. Either way, don't really think Johnny counts as trash writing, but you do you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yeah but as like a "last straw" kind of thing about even bothering with big budget games, but everyone in here seems to want to frame everything i say in the most extreme way possible for some reason

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, you've been saying BG3 looks tedious to play despite it being genuinely one of the absolute best games to come out in the last decade just because it's turn-based, so not quite sure I think our tastes align.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

... bro I'm allowed to think it looks tedious and awful, because that's how tastes work. I don't have to pretend to like something because it's popular or other people think it's "the best". I'm fine with turn-based games. What I don't like is extended cutscenes, generic fantasy settings, or TTRPG gameplay, particularly DnD. It's a kind of game I don't care for in the first place, based on a game that I find to be 100% pure tedium, in a type of setting that I am very weary of.

What baffles me the most is why its fans seem so keen on assuming the shallowest take possible and putting words in my mouth because I said their favorite game looks terrible to me. Grow up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I said our tastes are different, not that you're wrong. You're surprised that people disagree with you making a blanket claim about one of the most beloved games in recent years, AAA or not, and that's your choice to have that opinion and it's not wrong.

I do think you're overreacting to what I'm saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you try getting dogpiled for 12 hours for saying how a game based on a game you don't like in the first place looks to you and see how cool your replies are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, I normally don't say games look tedious and bad if I've only seen a few screenshots, that's just asking to get dog piled. Again, though, totally valid opinion to have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

i watched a 40 minute video but please continue assuming ignorance and stupidity on my part and reading it into everything i say.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hey that's fair, cyberpunk is a very "safe" game in the rpg genre.

Honestly you might just not be into RPGs at all, and that's totally fine. Don't let other people tell you what to play ya know?

There are good games out there, but the big studios are not making them. Except maybe from soft and larian (imho)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm fucking vocal about not liking RPGs, specifically fantasy games, and specifically DnD. Now observe everyone in this thread trying to cram BG3 down my throat, despite the fact that i went and watched a video for them and thought it looks fucking dreadful.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think the issue that people are responding to is that you're comparing it to Diablo, which is fundamentally a different game. Diablo is a hack and slash game with rpg elements and a god awful loot system. Bg3 is pretty much just playing DND on a computer without a dungeon master. They're just two completely different games. You can't even hack or slash in bg3, it's turn based and tactical.

That said, if you don't like the aesthetic of fantasy games, then clearly none of this will matter to you.

Frankly, it seems like you mostly care about the aesthetics of a game (no shade, just saying) so I'm kind of curious what your favorite game is?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

well that came later in the discussion after the cramming had begun and hey i was definitely wrong for that but it does look basically the same until you look close. telling me "go look up a video" was probably the worst way to explain what he meant so thanks for clearing up what that other person was trying to say. I hadn't looked into this game before but I already didn't think it sounded very interesting, and now I'm certain I don't want to play it.

I don't mind a fantasy aesthetic as a strict rule but the genre staples have been done to death, everything is stale dollar store middle-earth (with some le edge and gritte because GoT did well so gotta copy that) and I'm pretty over it. if it's got personality that's one thing but fantasy games almost never do anymore, it all sinks into that low-effort stock setting and medieval camp.

I'm not going to mention any particular game as my favorite because this is still basically reddit, and I am talkig to gamers, and my experience informs me that if I say what I like it will definitely be weaponized against me. But I do like platformers, driving games, turn-based strategy, spaceflight, and the odd RPG that manages to hit that rare sweet spot where it's not flavorless stock narrative but not incomprehensibly up its own ass either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah for sure, gamers get so fucking sweaty and cringey about people who like different shit. It's annoying. I'll take the heat and just say windwaker is my favorite Zelda game.

If you like platformers, I highly recommend spark the jester 3, it's like a good new sonic game. Also I guess Ghost runner is like a platformer/action game that's supposed to be good? Haven't played it yet but it looks cool.

Anyway I wish you luck in your search for good new games, and I hope you continue to be a chill ass viber

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, none of the items on your list I would contribute to BG3.

But since nobody knows you hate BG3 and it is a well received RPG that recently released, of course people are going to mention it.

It is fine if you don't like it. But please don't claim it is worthless when it just isn't your type of game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How can I hate a game I haven't played? All I've said it that it looks like a chore and I can't see myself playing it. I'm sorry you're butthurt someone else isn't impressed but don't go putting words in my mouth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you don't have an informed opinion, but are fast to judge a book by its cover.

Do you just hate it because it is popular and are envious of others people fun and want to shit on it to make yourself feel better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Why do you feel the need to whiteknight for a game when someone takes a good look and concludes it's not for them and they wouldn't enjoy it? Don't you have better things to do than try to strawman and shame someone on the internet into complying with your opinion about a video game?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can you recommend some good open world indie games?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure!

Valheim is fantastic, Kenshi is brutal and unforgiving but very fun, outward is similarly difficult and fun, also very unique.

Open world is kind of a huge genre, so I'd even say games like Subnautica, terraria, etc might be up your alley.

Edit: I can't believe I left out no man's sky and hyper light drifter! Highly recommend them both, no man's sky is such a good space life sim and hyper light drifter is kind of like a throwback to the first Zelda game, but obviously updated and with some different intentions to the gameplay/story. Happy gaming!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Love me some outward. I still want to play that game. Magic system is super weird in particular. Can never talk friends into it though, it's the static map that scares them I think

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

One man's repetitive garbage is another man's wealth of treasure (or a mix of gold and junk).

One of the best things about Pokémon imo is the music. Most generations, they hit it out of the park, even if the gameplay is similar. Sometimes people are so used to the formula that it's hard to have it change. (This is reminding me I need to continue Legends Arceus.) For the record, I was so disappointed by Pokémon Sun due to it being closer to a movie than a game that I ditched the franchise until Legends Arceus and S/V.

However, I think we need to be doing better to recommend alternatives to Pokémon If so many people are dissatisfied with the direction of the franchise. Whenever I search Pokémon alternatives, I get listicles of Pokémon games or maybe romhacks. What about other RPGs somewhat similar to Pokémon but different? The only close thing I've actually played was Fossil Fighters Frontier, and that was because a friend already was playing games in that series.