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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see what you mean, though I would probably make the same mistake myself without thinking it through.

What would be a better way to address "everyone"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

this is a little difficult, as social awareness for nonbinary ppl is still developing and we especially dont have a lot of established formal or fancy ways to address/include them.

a few small things i have learned/picked up over time:

  1. don't try to define all nonbinary identities in relation to the mainstream genders.

example: ladies, gentlemen and everyone inbetween

  • --> ladies, gentlemen and people of all other identities
  • --> ladies, gentlemen and everyone else

explanation: some nonbinary identities (genders or not) can be defined in relation to men and women but this is not true for all of them. something like "and inbetween" or "all around them" is therefore not fully inclusive and might even imply an underlying ignorance, which could make ppl feel unseen and misunderstood.

  1. try not to seperate into genders at all

example: ladies, gentlemen and people of all other identities

  • --> everyone
  • --> people of all identities

explanation: something like "ladies, gentlemen and everyone else" ends up reducing all nonbinary genders into one "everyone else" while the two mainstream genders get named directly. this implies that nonbinary identities are less important to the speaker. it's ofc impossible to name all identities individually, so when trying to address everyone, i would try to not seperate into genders at all.

  1. dont think of nonbinary identities as necessairily genders

example: ladies, gentlemen and people of all other genders

  • --> ladies, gentlemen and people of all other identities
  • --> ladies, gentlement and non-binary folk

explanation: the nonbinary umbrella does, next to nonbinary genders, also include people without a gender (agender). so if we try to address everyone by simply including all genders, we might still forget agender people.


sowy for the wall of text. i went all out with formatting in the hope that that might make it more readable.

this is all just my personal perspective and i pwobably didnt get everything right myself. i hope it can still help other ppl be more inclusive :3

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is really great, I appreciate this a lot!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you could just do, "hey everyone" and sidestep the whole problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

basically point 2 in my powerpoint presentation x3

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

All of this is one reason why I find myself using 'fellow humans' as a form of address. Yeah, it sounds like you're an alien overlord in a skin suit, but it's 100% inclusive.

That and (to get all hippy about it) it's a consciousness shifting exercise - refuse divisions when they're not necessary for a specific discussion, think at the level of shared humanity as the default.