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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (146 children)

What a fucking pant load. You're so full of shit, it stinks.

the majority of folks are just people trying to get by, and if you’re nice enough to them, they’ll be nice enough to you.

Bullshit. The majority of people want to dominate everyone not in their immediate social circle. Go look up social dominance theory - it will tell you everything you need to know about how people really behave.

The problem with most terminally online people is that their social lives ended when they left school, which is when the population of arseholes is at its highest. Everybody is trying to impress everybody else, even at the cost of others.

But a lot of those same people tend to chill off as they mature into adults and become less self-centred. There are still absolutely arsehole adults, but nowhere near as many as the terminally online expect there to be.

And what magical fucking force forces people to "chill"?

They don't. Because that magic doesn't fucking exist. Only the trauma of punishment makes people stop abusing others. Without the threat of permanent injury on themselves, people will always try to permanently injure others as a means to dominate and control - at least for the sake of their social groups. That desperate need to dominate and control is what makes them human.

You are spreading self-aggrandizing lies; spreading an infection that will only cause more people to get more "uppity" and beat more innocent people to death. Stop lying about people and apologizing for their bloodlust. People are murderers, hunters for the only "game" still left - forcibly isolated human beings.

I wasted my entire life being kind to people, only to mock me for being so stupid, so gullible enough to fall for the con that they would be nice back. They beat me like they were mining for ore, driving blow after blow into my skull until it was permanently disfigured, and then they broke every bone in my limbs until they didn't work anymore.

Don't give me this horseshit about how people "chill out" - I did not get almost murdered over fifteen years by people who would simply magically stop being murderous because some timer ran out. No, those motherfuckers murdered as if it was a fucking religious mandate and they are the same type of assholes who tried to take over the U.S. on January 6th.

No one is ever going to acknowledge my humanity, no matter how kind I am, or what I do. I will always be seen as a "less than" because the ENTIRE human race are malignant narcissists - and there is an entire organization of psychologists and sociologists who reject the pro-human narrative and know exactly how evil people really are. Quit apologizing for rapists and murderers.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (67 children)

No one is ever going to acknowledge my humanity

What does that look like to you? People are talking to you right now. I know that no one has said "you are a person" but what specifically do you want?

Unless you were literally raised by wolves this is some self aggrandizing incel bullshit.

Coming up with an theory of the world that confirms that you are right and everyone else is terrible is lazy. I don't think you've ever actually cared about anyone but yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (66 children)

People are talking to you right now

You're talking at me, lying to me and trying to dictate reality to me. You don't respect me an an equal person - you think of me as an infinite "less than" that you need to dominate with your lies.

Unless you were literally raised by wolves this is some self aggrandizing incel bullshit.

I was raised by some of the most abusive people on the planet - enough to be jailed today - and surrounded exclusively by abusive peers.

I don’t think you’ve ever actually cared about anyone but yourself.

I did care, but you assholes taught me that caring about people who wanted me dead was a suicide pact. No one ever cared about me - not my parents, not my childhood peers, no school faculty. You motherfuckers demonstrated over fifteen years that my caring would be actively mocked as "stupid" and "retarded" and that I would be punished until I was capable of physically breaking my punishers. You all did that - not me. You all made sure no one would ever care about me, even going so far as to kill yourselves to guarantee it. You are quasi-religious zealots, dedicate to the cause of hate.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you happy?

It seems like you are lashing out randomly and have a world view that everything is orchestrated to harm you.

You all made sure no one would ever care about me, even going so far as to kill yourselves to guarantee it.

You believe that people have killed themselves to make your life worse? I don't want to sound mean, but you aren't the only person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you happy?

No, I'm not a happiness addict. Happiness is not the goal - it's the failure state. Happiness means I've become an abusive monster, like you.

You believe that people have killed themselves to make your life worse? I don’t want to sound mean, but you aren’t the only person.

I know. They've done the same to and for other people. Bigotry affects millions of people - I'm simply an equal one of those affected.

I'm simply trying to convince people that I"m an equal one of them, but their bigotry makes them refuse to accept that - just as it does to the equality of many others. The only difference between me and other victims of bigotry is that I don't belong to a group.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Happiness is not the goal - it's the failure state. Happiness means I've become an abusive monster, like you.

That's a wild take man. Like what are you talking about? Can you tell me exactly what I've done to be an "abusive monster"? Could you elaborate on how happiness is only the result of being abusive?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Happiness is like a drug; it is addictive, and "taking" it loses effectiveness over time. This means every person needs to do more extreme things to achieve the same happiness. Eventually, they need to start abusive others in order to achieve the same "high".

You may not be actively abusive yet, but you have to quit cold-turkey and run directly away from happiness in order to avoid the grip it will gain on you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm going to disagree with you. I have found it takes less to make me happy as I get older. Moreover, my happiest moments are those where others are happy. I take no pleasure in harming others and I don't believe that's a unique perspective.

I think your coping mechanisms have made your life more difficult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think your coping mechanisms have made your life more difficult.

By definition that's not possible. Unless you're accusing me of being incompetent; correct exercise of coping mechanisms cannot make life more difficult because they're engineered as a ratchet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is common to develop a drug or alcohol addiction as part of a coping mechanism. That can absolutely make your life more difficult. Coping mechanisms can make it more difficult to make changes that will better your life.

The path of least resistance isn't always the easiest path.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I promise you that this is not the "path of least resistance". In fact, it may be the path of most resistance - that's evidence it's the right one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is it? Your choices don't make life more difficult or they do and that's why they are good?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People's reactions to my choices make my life more difficult, and that's why they are good. They can choose not to make my life more difficult; they instead make the immoral choice. My choice is moral and therefore the only one I can really make.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's interesting that any pushback you is evidence you are correct. It's also interesting that you take no responsibility for any difficulties you might experience, it's always the result of someone else's choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I take responsibility for things I have actually done wrong. The problem here is that people conflate their out-of-control feelings with factual incorrectness. I can't be responsible for your feelings, especially when you go out of your way to feel things in bad faith to blame me for those feelings. It's your responsibility to not allow your feelings to affect your judgment in any way.

You don't actually care about me being truly responsible - you just want me to be stupid enough and submissive enough to accept responsibility for things I have no duty to be responsible for. You want me to be responsible for your feelings that you have in bad faith, so you can justify "punishing" me arbitrarily.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's shocking how far you will go to avoid the idea that people aren't out to get you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're the one avoiding facts.

Right now, a third of the U.S. - the white supremacy movement - has openly announced their desire to kill off at least another third of the U.S.

But, for some reason, those same people will refuse to kill me - despite some of them being the exact same people who beat me up in grade school?

They're murderers, dipshit - they don't make exception for anyone - not even their own.

And the only reason the other two thirds aren't actively killing me is because they know the other third will - and they plan to help them kill me.

Also, "out to get" is your bullshit framing base on your laziness. It's actually opportunism - but that still leaves me dead, and doesn't excuse their behavior - or yours.

Finally, you still haven't addressed the fact that you positively, provably manipulate your own emotions in bad faith to create a justification for abusing me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly how have I abused you? You keep claiming that, but all I've done is talk and notice that you have some views that aren't very healthy or stand up to scrutiny.

a third of the U.S.

You believe that 1 in 3 people would support a racial genocide? Do you have any support for that?

Following that up you claim that everyone wants to kill you. Doesn't that seem a little paranoid to you?

No one here is attacking you or threatening your life. No one. People aren't insulting you, even though you are insulting everyone. Your world view is being questioned because it doesn't seem healthy or rational. People aren't saying "I think you are wrong" because they hate you and want you to "submit" but because you appear to be very unwell.

I know that my life improved when I changed my outlook, and I think you are clinging to unhealthy views because it makes it easier than trying to better yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly how have I abused you? You keep claiming that, but all I’ve done is talk and notice that you have some views that aren’t very healthy or stand up to scrutiny.

What you done is act in bad faith - your "talk" is spreading lies, you don't gave a shit about my health or about honesty.

You believe that 1 in 3 people would support a racial genocide? Do you have any support for that?

Have you seen the fucking news over here lately? The entire Republican Party is clamoring for secession and genocide.

Following that up you claim that everyone wants to kill you. Doesn’t that seem a little paranoid to you?

That doesn't matter. And to be precise, what they want first is to dominate me, to make me their slave. They only want to kill me because I openly refuse to obey them - which makes them look weak.

No one here is attacking you or threatening your life. No one.

Yes they are - they are a threat simply be knowing I exist. People refuse to control their own behavior; people's behavior is only controlled externally. Bullies don't stop their own bulling behavior - they have to be punished to stop them, but bullies stopped being punished long before I was born. So now everyone is a bully, and everyone is out of control.

People aren’t insulting you, even though you are insulting everyone.

Every contradiction is an insult. Who they fuck are they to contradict me when I'm the only one here who ever bothered to do the hard work of learning anything?

Your world view is being questioned because it doesn’t seem healthy or rational.

According to the unhealthy and irrational human species. Uh huh.

People aren’t saying “I think you are wrong” because they hate you and want you to “submit” but because you appear to be very unwell.

Again, judgment from the same bullies who called me names my entire childhood. Can't you see why their judgement would be held in doubt?

Quit pretending people act in good faith. They are liars down to the bone, and I'm sick and tired of you defending them.

I know that my life improved when I changed my outlook, and I think you are clinging to unhealthy views because it makes it easier than trying to better yourself.

First, I have spent my entire life bettering myself. Second, bettering myself is far easier that defending myself against assault. Third, you don't actually want me to truly better myself - the "bettering myself" you want is for me to be more gullible, more submissive. I'll never believe anyone's bullshit, and you'll never get me on my knees. I will resist you until I die.

Finally, your life only got "better" because you chose to be delusional - which then exported the cost of living onto other people. Other people now suffer because you chose to believe lies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I hope one day you get the help that you need.

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