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[–] renzev@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

OK but how can json have a license? I understand a particular json parser having a license, but how can a specification, which contains no code, even be considered "software"?

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Uh define code there. What about when storage and code are both on a machine that considers both instructions and data to be data? Is a spec not a creative work? Is code not just a spec?

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 132 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So do you use JSON for your endpoints?

No we use XML

Oh interesting why is that?

Uhhh.....no reason

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Well SOAP is inherently evil so that just makes sense

[–] _____@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I work with SOAP for a legacy API

fucking kill me, I beg you

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[–] bahbah23@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What happens is that engineers look at a technology and say, this is too complex, I just need something simple. So they invent and/or adopt something simpler than the popular technology of the day.

But as they build more and more things using the technology, they realize that it needs more features, so those get added on. This happens over and over again to the technology with more and more features being added to it, until a new set of engineers look at it and say this is too complex, I just need something simple...

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You've just described what is probably the most well-known xkcd comic in a somewhat long-winded fashion.

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[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

GraphQL saved my ass on a term project that required extensive polling of the GitHub API. Turned a calculated 47 days of calls just under the rate limit into just 12 hours.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does one address the paradox that, as JSON itself is evil, one cannot use it for evil?

(opinions may vary on the above; but it's mine, so nyah nyah.)

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (16 children)

It's less evil than XML or YAML

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

XML is ok for complex docs where you have a detailed structure and relationships. JSON is good for simple objects. YAML is good for being something to switch to for the illusion of progress.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Meh. I just wish XML was easier to parse. I have to shuttle a lot of XML data back and forth. As far as I can tell, the only way to query the data is to download a whole engine to run a special query language, and that doesn't really integrate into any of my workflows. JSON retains the hierarchy and is trivially parsed in almost any programming language. I bet a JSON file containing the exact same data would be much smaller also, since you don't list each tag twice.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Spoilsports. Next they'll be telling me I can't use apple software in the development, design, manufacture, or production of nuclear, missile, or chemical or biological weapons.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Me buying my first IBM ThinkPad online:

IBM: are you planning to use this ThinkPad to produce weapons of mass destruction?

Me: I wasn't before, but now I'm curious

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago
[–] superkret@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago (8 children)

The FSF also lists any software as non-free which uses the beer license (use the software in any way you want, and should you ever meet the author, pay them a beer).

I can't stand beer - is there a rum & Coke license?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Is it really contrarian to like the FSF these days? I mean people seem to hate Stallman too but both are pretty important in the history and continuing existence of free software.

The four essential freedoms are in my view as important as the FSF says, and any license that doesn't meet all four will be met with skepticism from me absolutely.

Also, the GPL is a real, legal license, and even if there's a silly clause that causes it to be incompatible, that's still a legal liability - of course they have to take it seriously.

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[–] ColonelThirtyTwo@pawb.social 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everybody gangsta with the "don't be evil" clause until the authors turn out to be a nutjob who thinks trans people are blights against God and must be exterminated.

I doubt (or at least hope) that that's not what they think, but hopefully that illustrates why the clause is dumb.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago

100%, and it doesn't seem to lay out a legal definition of "good" so it's actually worse than useless - it's ambiguous.

[–] ryanvade@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I'll be downloading this one

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

can we please pronounce that evil in a British accent: ivil

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