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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Supporting the creators, yeah, because thats what Google built their empire on top of.

Caring about people.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Most creaters (even smaller ones) doesn't care about revunue (YT creaters get paid if they're in YPP) loss from adblockers and lm pretty sure YouTubers also use adblock instead of paying Premium

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If only we could directly support the people we wanted to.... Oh wait.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well you can actually. For example there is channel memberships.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Prefer Patreon or other means. YT takes 30% of that money, and including bs like processing fees that's more like 36%. Patreon's share is 12%.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And Ko-Fi takes between 0-5%.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Actually the premium user is worth more to creators because a premium user gives them a bigger slice than ad users.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I will not use youtube and use ads. The sooner they break my adblocker, the sooner i won't be on their platform

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I really don't think they understand this... If an ad starts playing on YouTube I just turn it off and see why my ad blocker isn't working. If it doesn't work I simply don't watch the video. I had no desire to switch to Firefox because Chrome was just working for me, but then it didn't work. There's no way in hell I'm sitting here with my adhd addled brain, with my 4 year old phone in my hands watching for 30 seconds why I need a brand new acura.

The only time I've ever willingly watched an ad was tiktok. Because they know I can simply swipe and skip it, but sometimes the sponsored content is creative and entertaining.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They do understand it. They just believe the number of people who will do it are small enough to be worth it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I guess. And you might be right. But the end goal of enshittifying everything is going to bottle out into unusable tech and the death of innovation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

And sadly, they're probably right. Just look at how many people are willing to sit there mindlessly absorbing messages from their corporate masters.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're part of less than 10% of the people watching YouTube, and you're in a 10% they won't care about because you aren't making them money anyhow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

They are also on here instead of reddit, so they are really in much more rarefied air.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

google just made it so ad blockers using their engine will not work the same... probably why it was working fine then it didn't

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ads have started to straight up break the internet for me. I can go to websites and they'll complain about my ad blocker, and the only help I get is "disable your extensions." I don't even have any extensions! No ad block! But sites still curl up and die on me.

Is it because my browser is hardened? Is it Linux? Do I have to fork over private data to use a site and if I don't they pretend the issue is ad blockers?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, Google sure is trying to take us in the direction of "you have to log in to Chrome to use the internet".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well let’s see how that goes when chrome is no longer google

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Google is just going to stall and delay until Trump's goons come in. Then, suddenly, the DOJ will have a change of heart.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I didn’t use adblockers when they had occasional normal ad breaks. Now when I have to watch on a TV app its just a garbage experience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yep I know but our main entertainment device is an Apple TV.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

Ngl, I run Firefox and the usual suite of adblockers and haven't experienced any issues. I do the same on my phone (Firefox in "desktop mode").

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

YouTube is a monopoly. The reason no one really uses multiple platforms to upload videos at the same level as YouTube is because it was run for a long time at a lose to push out all competition. I have no simpthy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Subscribe to Nebula instead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

I ❤️ FreeTube

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I"m just going to watch youtube less.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Why paying for no longer having an ad free experience, if you can have a really ad free YouTube for free?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

Newpipe!!!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

smarttube.app

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I ended up paying for it because, frankly, expecting Youtube to be completely free and fighting how it could be paid for is kinda crazy. We’re just used to it being free but running Youtube is expensive. I watch hours of Youtube nearly every day and don’t use Crunchyroll nearly as much so why am I ok paying for that but not Youtube?

Yes, if they do actually start pushing ads then I’m going to wonder what the hell I’m paying for but for the time being I’m ok with paying for a service. I only started paying for it recently, to be fair, but I get it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (16 children)

It depends how many hours per month you use it I guess.

I am fine paying for Netflix (it is quite cheap here as well) which I watch probably at least 20-30 hours per month but not for youtube which I use for the music maybe an hour per week or less.

YouTube frequency of commercials is unacceptable. If they were to play a commercial every half an hour or so, I would say it is too often but I would understand it.

They don't, they try to play a commercial every other song start, so every 7-10 minutes. They are taking a piss.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

At the end of the day, Google is just going to double dip and take your money, and still sell your data.

They are, first and foremost, an ad company. Their money maker is the data they get from you; your viewing habits and whatever they can scrape from your computer.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

If you want YouTube to keep existing, you should pay for it. That's why I use adblocker.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Give an inch, they take a mile

Instead of trying to make money, they should be looking at how to operate without it

Peertube is an example of figuring this out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How to operate without money? Hosting countless hours of high-quality video on demand and streaming it to your computer at highspeed? Are you high?

I had never heard of Peertube before your comment and it sounds great! It also puts a lot on the content creator, though, and regardless of whether Youtube should follow that model or not how would you expect them to make that change? Just suddenly tell every creator that they must start self-hosting? Genius, that’ll go over so well!

Peertube themselves are saying that they don’t want to replace Youtube, simply to offer alternatives and choice(which I’m cool with).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

The transition would be saving videos users watch on their devices not just creators

However it’s just one path, if Google’s engineers find a better solution then they can do that.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I still didn't get why you paid

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Google can suck the shit directly from my asshole Human Centipede style if they think I'm ever going to pay them for.not using their monopoly to harass me. When I can no longer feasibly block ads on YouTube, I'll just move to another platform. Thank goodness they're about to lose Chrome because otherwise they'd soon be injecting ads directly through the browser just like they do in their shitty news app.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

On firefox I've been occasionally seeing ads leak into videos lately but refreshing usually fixes it.

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