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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Some of you will lose your job, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make. I take full accountability.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

When COVID hit, the management team at the company I worked for, took temporarily salary hits. The rest of us were told our quarterly bonuses would be frozen. Nobody would be laid off unless it's an emergency.

Company pivoted in just a few months thanks to smart executive decisions and hard working engineers. The quarterly bonuses were paid out anyway. Nobody was laid off. We saved a bunch of our B2B customers' livelihoods by offering solutions that helped them continue operate during lockdowns (and our company's income was directly dependent on THEIR income - if they suffered, we suffered, if they prospered, we prospered). Of course, the CEO was also the founder of the company and at that point, there had been no investors or anyone involved. It was truly a family-run company that had made it big.

THAT is accountability. Doing whatever you can to keep your staff employed and your customers happy.

That company has since enshittified because of management changes and I've left for greener pastures, but if I'm ever in charge of my own company and the financials look bleak, I'll take the hit myself. It's easier to replace money than it is to replace good, hard working people. And good people will help you pivot if your business model is no longer working out.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's not how accountability works....

Accountability would be lowering your own pay in order to keep your workers and admit you did this because others shouldn't have to suffer for your mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I'm sorry, but I don't think you have what it takes to be a CEO

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

No matter! He said the thing so he's absolved, that's just CEO rules ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

That seems kind of harsh. I'd totally accept falling on his own sword, maybe seppuku.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

yes, this is more like that little hand wave that tennis players do to acknowledge a lucky point "sorry mate, your job is gone... moving on"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago

"I declare accountability!"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

That means he fired himself too, right?

...... Right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

And this is the problem with public companies and private equity. Number must go up.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

After paying $720/yr, then $840, then being told it would be over $900 this year, I wasn’t really happy about the cost of using Dropbox. But it’s been rock solid for many years and was heavily integrated into my company’s workflow, so I smiled and bent over.

Until they took away the unlimited storage. I was using 31TB, and they wanted to put me at 15TB with no option to upgrade even if I wanted to.

I already had an on-site NAS, so I bought another for $3k (with drives) and asked a family member in another state to house it. I’m using Resilio to sync everything. It’s been backing up for a couple of months and probably has a couple more to go. So far I’m happy with the decision.

I have to imagine I’m not the only one making this move. Even if they fix the problem, I’m not going back. It’s far cheaper to keep a customer than to win a new one. Hopefully they learn their lesson.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's funny because the people behind the decision will likely profit from enshitifying the company so that it's no longer useful or profitable in a few years.

So in a way they're learning the lesson that they should keep company hopping and soaking customers wherever they go, because everyone (at their pay grade) gets rich, and then they just move on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

That is the entire purpose of the decision

See Boeing, intel today, but history is littered with examples

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The MBA playbook

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this for personal or professional? I have a small server (few TB) and I'm amazed the immense amounts of data some people hoard for fun. I always thought it was mad to keep movies, until I tried to get the original lion king on my native language and decent quality and it took me days to find. Won't delete that one

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It’s both. My company is nearly twenty years old and I have an archive of everything I have ever done. … And a plex library.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Full accountability", as in, they're still fired, he still have his big paycheck and assorted bonuses, and the more general "fuck them" attitude will remain.

That's not accountability, that's shitting on people and smiling about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

It's like a YouTuber apology. "Oh I done fucked up, I am so sowwy" while sitting on a cozy couch in a multi-million-dollar home

[–] [email protected] 172 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Surely that means he also took a hefty pay cut to keep on as many people as possible. Wouldn't that be what accepting accountability looks like?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We had layoffs last year, and two of the managers opted to quit their jobs rather than fire an additional staff member.

Sadly their replacements are not as nice.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

My manager just went on vacation the week they laid off his team. Didn't hear a word from that coward after the fact.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Found the commie! /s

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[–] [email protected] 132 points 4 days ago (2 children)

CEO Drew Houston will remain in his job.

So not full accountability.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"full accountability" means moving those 500 workers' salaries into his paycheck.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

As a CEO. His public opinion is already dogshit, might as well own it.

Sure, I'm an asshole, I did that. Sorry, it is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 days ago

He's taking full accountability by giving himself a larger raise.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is the opposite of taking accountability though...?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Yes, but only if you don't speak C-Suite.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 days ago (4 children)

That's not what accountability means

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (7 children)

But, he hasn't taken any responsibility for the years of scamming new customers with bait and switch schemes. They haven't even changed their deceptive sales tactics. They are still a shitty, deceptive mega-corp that thrives on theft and lies.

If you are looking for an alternative to a mega-corp for secure, sharable online storage, I have used sync.com for a few years now and am very happy with them.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

“As CEO, I take full responsibility for this decision and the circumstances that led to it, and I’m truly sorry to those impacted by this change,” he wrote. “This market is moving fast and investors are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this space. This both validates the opportunity we’ve been pursuing and underscores the need for even more urgency, even more aggressive investment, and decisive action.”

Lol

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago

Leaders often claim that they are taking accountability when they screw up—and they should, as CEOs like Houston are the ones who mismanaged the company to the point of requiring layoffs in the first place. But rarely does “taking accountability” actually amount to much of anything. The most notable recent example is perhaps that Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella asked the company’s board to reduce his pay in light of the major Crowdstrike hack. But in that case, his overall compensation still increased for the year by $30 million. Just, a little less up.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

think they mean he took the full accounts

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (14 children)

I wish someone would keep a list of all the companies that have laid employees off in the last few years, so we can keep tabs on who to not give our business to.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Would be easier to keep a list of those that didn't.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

wow even more meaningless than free lunch coupons, way to go

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean the other option would have been to keep these staff and leverage them to drive innovative solutions with your product or possibly close open feature requests and bug submissions. I mean, these 500 people could have worked towards new initiatives to grow the business as they are keenly aware of the drop box business already and would be able to execute quickly on new initiatives. There are so many interesting places that drop box could expand into and they are instead choosing to layoff staff that could get them there.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

I went through a round of layoffs at my last company. They laid off around 15% and then went hiring, people who just had their teams cut in half and their workload doubled and had to say goodbye to colleagues with years of experience were then told to do 3-4 interviews a week to hire new talent.

It was all just a yank of the choke chain. Management wanted labor to know that they could replace you. Our most senior people burned out and I left after staying longer than I really should have to try to help out my teammates.

Layoffs like this are about obedience and control and showing the investors that you are willing to break people to return them a healthy profit.

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