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submitted 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Pretty much in the title, the only time I interact with the windows key in its standard operating condition is getting pissed off that the start menu opened. I use it in other capacities such as taking screen shots and other key commands but I got to wondering if anyone, ever actually uses it to access the start menu.

Also if anyone comes here and posts “dOnT uSe wINdoWs,” you really are cute.

Edit: I am more curious if anyone actually gets utility out of its default behavior (opening the start menu). I am aware that it is used in a number of key commands (although some are new to me).

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 48 minutes ago

I don't ever use the start menu for anything. I can't be bothered to look through that mess.

Instead I press the windows key and type the first few letters of whatever I need, unless it's already stickied to the bar. It's fewer key presses than clicking through the start menu. I suppose that still counts as opening the start menu, even if I don't use the actual menu structure.

I also use the windows + arrow keys to toss windows around the multiple screens. It has a lot of other purposes, like creating extra desktops etc, which I admittedly never use.

It's a useful button for sure, but it does get a little overwhelming when combined with shift ctrl or alt . I can't possibly remember all the uses, but I have the most commonly used on muscle memory.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

but I got to wondering if anyone, ever actually uses it to access the start menu.

Yes definitely. Try pressing the Windows key and type the first few letters of the app name you're looking for, it's way way faster than mousing around clicking and scrolling through the Start Menu.

Also Windows key + E to open the file explorer gets used a lot. And windows key + L to lock the screen, I do that one a lot when walking away from the desktop at work.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 hour ago

Hell yes. I'm not taking the time go move my hand to the mouse, find the cursor with my eyes, move the mouse and then move hands back to type. That's asinine.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 20 minutes ago

Definitely! Win-Tab (properly called Meta-Tab) is used to switch activities in KDE Plasma. With this simple key combination, I gain another 15 virtual desktops.

[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 hours ago

I use it a lot. Ever since windows 8, the best way to use windows has been hit the windows key and type what you want.

Additionally there are a few shortcuts that are handy

  • win + L for locking
  • win + E for file explorer
  • win + D for desktop
  • win + ctrl + alt + shift + L to hate what windows has become
[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 hours ago

Also "win + - > or <-" to move a tile to left or right side.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

Well, I'd say the start menu peaked in Windows 7, where it only showed good local results, but it is still the best way to open something I know the name of.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

You can disable online results permanently with about 15 minutes of web searching and adjusting settings (including within registry and group policy, but still).

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

win + ; for some fun ascii art

[-] [email protected] 0 points 52 minutes ago

I had to google ctrl shift with dogs l, and...

It k8nd of makes sense: I bet the type of person who actually use this hockey is the same kind of person who reposts motivational corporate shite every 10 minutes.

[-] [email protected] 36 points 3 hours ago

So you use your mouse to click on the start menu button, scroll through the menu and click again on the program? That sounds awful. I click the Windows button and type the program name.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago

I pin programs I frequently use to my task bar like a gentleman.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 hours ago

Check this.... Windows Key + Number corresponding to position of your task bar icon will launch that program. So your 3rd icon from the left = Win+3

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

Is the implication here that you don't use any other programs?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Buy top of the line gaming rig

Only check email

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

The real question is who uses the actual start menu, as in tiles and program list. I've only ever seen people type the program name

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

The Windows start menu is inexplicably a huge mess. Like all MS products, they cram their interface with as much as possible.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I preferred their nested menus to what is there now, though I started using search as soon as it became a thing (Windows 7?). They should have really implemented categories (like in Linux) early on rather than having every suite have it's own sub-menu in the Start Menu.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

You can do that yourself, since Chicago first debuted in ~1994.

I don't want my OS categorizing stuff for me.

My start menu is categorized on the root (where "pinned" items go), and I leave the rest of the menu alone.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

The maintainer of the application chooses the categorie(s) but manually organizing things as an end user... is kinda dumb. Maybe I don't understand your workflow (or why the Start Menu is the way it is now with all programs barfed into one list, I figured it was for touch devices). It doesn't really matter, though, because search is used primarily now, anyways. Forgetting the name of the application is the only reason I can see digging through the Start Menu now.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I prefer OpenShell, since it unfucks the start menu and makes it usable. It's just like Win7 but easy to customize.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I imagine some legacy users who cut their teeth on Windows 95 or something and never changed their ways. I was a Mac user through the mid 2000s and switched back when I got my gaming rig with Windows 10 so I don’t remember when the search bar was implemented—never used the start menu since.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

I use it for shortcuts in my linux

[-] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

Yeah, the mod key is my best friend with Sway, I literally can't avoid using it

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 hours ago

Oh yeah. I use it all the time. It's useful to hit the key and type the first 3-5 characters of the program I want to launch and hitting return.

It's also the function key for the screen clip feature which I use often (Windows + Shift + S).

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Use that one all the time

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

100%

It's the only way I open the start menu. There is no faster way to get to what I want than Superkey and typing.

PS I have all my OSes set up similarly. OSx has spotlight, my GNOME and KDE are configured to launch searchable menus on Super, and my mobile launcher is set up to search when I swipe up.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Yes I do.

🪟 + ⬅️/➡️/⬇️/⬆️ snaps windows into tiles on your screen or maximize/minimizes them.

🪟 + shift + S is the shortcut for the ‘new’ snipping tool

Sure, 🪟 alone opens and closes the start menu, but when opens opened, your curser is already the search bar so if you want to quickly open an app, it’s just: 🪟, first few letters of the app, Enter

I don’t use it as much, but: Ctrl +🪟 + ⬅️/➡️ cycles you through virtual desktops

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Constantly. I'm a keyboard shortcut junky. I use it with several different key combos. The fact that the "super key" works slightly differently in Pop OS kind of drives me crazy. I really need to figure out how to remap it so it's closer to the same.

Edit: I should clarify that I also use it to bring up the stupid Windows menu all the time, too. Then I will search for whatever app I'm looking for. I have turned off web searching with it, though.

Even though most-frequently used apps are pinned, there are still quite a few others that I need semi-regularly but not enough to earn a pin.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I expect the windows snapping to work with the super key... I need to figure something out. I need my tiling!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes! I will complain about MS WIndows all day...but they did do a few things right and this is one of them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

I used to use Super to open the application selector menu thing (similar to the start menu on my system). But I recently tweaked my keyboard shortcuts to add a bunch of ones using Super for application switching and stuff, so rebound it to Super+w.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I use:
Win+R constantly
Win+E regularly
Win+D occasionally
Win+M never now that I WFH full time

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Whether you use Windows or Linux, the Windows key is the foundation of many useful keyboard shortcuts. You know, hold it down plus some other key.

Whatever your preferred OS, look them up! You may find a few you would like to start using.

But yeah, on my work computer which is a Windows machine, I often use it to open the start menu and start typing the name of the app I want to launch. It’s faster than clicking on an icon somewhere if your hands are already on the keyboard.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

All the time, both on Windows and KDE Plasma. It's especially convenient for starting an app you don't have pinned to your taskbar, just press the Windows key and then type the name of the app.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

to shut down because its just windows, up, down, enter

all keyboard

also for the snipping tool

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not here. I don't use Windows and so I rebind the Win key (or, Super) for some quick functions.

Win + L to lock the screen
Win + K to blank it
Win + C for my calculator app
Win + T (and Ctrl+Shift+T) for a Terminal
Win + Left/Right arrow to cycle to the previous/next desktop

Bonus fun, I rebind the Right Alt key to a Compose key for typing Latin-1 diacritics in non UTF-8 applications. (Plus, I can't remember the U-codes)

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I use it to open the start menu. I'm on windows 10 so I have my daily used programs pinned to the taskbar, my frequently used programs organized in sections of tiles on the start menu, and for everything else I either type to search for it in the start menu or just Win+R and use the run dialog if it's a system component.

Likely moving to Linux when Windows 10 ends support. I've got enough experience with 11 to know I couldn't stand using it regularly

Edit: and I didn't really talk about using it as a hotkey because of your OP, but for the record I use it like that all the time too. Win arrow for window sizing, win shift arrow for moving things between monitors, win R, E, L, D, win semicolon for the emoji keyboard, win number row to quickly launch taskbar pins, win tab for the lulz sometimes, win shift S for snipping tool when I don't need to use shareX instead for a local copy of the snip, etc.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

GNOME Linux I use it regularly to switch between tasks/windows, as well as windows+arrow keys to snap windows to edges or minimize them.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I hide my taskbar and sometimes it gets funky and a little shy and doesn't pop up. Pressing the Windows key pops it back up.

Once in awhile on my home non-windows machine I use it to pop the menu out to turn off the computer. Completely mood based.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I use it with the arrow keys fairly often to snap apps to sections of the screen.

Some terrible keyboards put it where alt should be and those should be burned.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I use it as a modifier chorded with another key in Linux for a number of things, like switching workspaces, opening a terminal or browser window, resizing windows, existing the graphical environment, locking the system, toggling floating windows, starting application launchers, toggling a window's fullscreen state, or toggling playing music. I think that as a modifier key, it's fine. I don't have tapping it alone do anything, and in general, don't like single-key operations like that; ditto for F-key operations.

It sounds like one can disable the tap-Windows-key-alone behavior on Windows via the autohotkey macro software package:

https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=101812

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

the super key is one of my most used keys.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

nope, never. not even on windows boxes

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Only if my window has gone missing and I need to winkey + arrow keys it somewhere to get it back.

Other than that, no.

I mean early days, most of us pulled it off or disabled it so we wouldn't hit it by accident while playing FPS games.

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