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[Discussion] Thoughts on the 2024 season so far (fanaticus.social)

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With all the talking heads on TV proclaiming that this season is unlike any other, I'm curious how the community feels. Totally new landscape of CFB or just more of the same? How do we all feel about:

Helmet communication (for only 1 player on the field per team except on free kicks)
Tablets on the sidelines (up to 18 per team)
The 2 minute timeout
Corporate logos on fields (no longer requires the stadium to be named after the sponsor)
New homes for Arizona, ASU, Cal, CU, Oregon, ou, SMU, Stanford, Texas, UCLA, USC, Utah, Washington
Expanded playoff (probably too early to tell on this one)
New TV deals (SEC on ABC, B1G on CBS)
Current season of Fansville (Ewers could be a Heisman candidate but he sure won't be winning any Oscars)

For reference, here are the P4 vs P4 records so far:

ACC: 6-8
B1G: 5-5 (or 5-6 if counting ND)
Big XII: 5-6
SEC: 8-5 (or 8-6 if counting ND)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

The conference realignment is the hardest part for me to swallow.

Granted, I’m old enough that I was first paying attention to college football when the Southwest Conference was on its last legs. I miss having conferences that were based on regional rivalries and geographic proximity, instead of wringing every last dollar possible from TV contracts. In that aspect at least, it feels more like NFL-lite than a proper collegiate thing.

I’m all in favor of things that contribute toward player safety. I also don’t mind at all players having NIL rights and making money off that. I will admit to having concerns about direct player compensation and in effect making them employees of the university. Primarily, I’m worried that at schools which aren’t flush with athletics money, this could lead to non-revenue sports getting dropped, and could also risk Title IX implications in compensation parity among men’s & women’s athletics.

I went to a D3 school that didn’t have a football team, and in the context of the changing athletics landscape I’m glad I did. My alma mater does have an NIL policy for it’s athletes including timely disclosure of all details, and warnings about tax implications, but we aren’t ever going to be wealthy enough that we’ll pay direct compensation to student athletes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pac-12 lives! Sorta.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Pac-12 dies the way it lived, late and full of drama

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

As a South Carolina fan, thus far my thought is "Eh, it could be worse."

As an SEC fan, thus far my thought is "Good lord, Texas is nasty."

As a Dr. Pepper fan, thus far my thought is "I think he did need that backup. 🤔"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would say that although a lot has changed, it feels less like a paradigm shift than when NIL or the transfer portal were introduced. Even the introduction of targeting as a rule or the clock no longer pausing on 1st down felt like bigger changes than some of these, at least to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Transfer portal is something I forgot about.

I’m unfamiliar with the details of how it operates but I think it’s a good idea in general. After all, if non-athletes can transfer whenever they want, and if coaches can take a new job elsewhere without having to sit out, athletes should be able to move around too.

I am concerned for the vast majority of athletes who aren’t good enough to go pro, because of issues with getting transfer credits to count toward your degree plan, that they may have trouble finishing in four scholarship years.

I’m also concerned about the potential for abuse of the portal by unscrupulous coaches & athletics administrators.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's a side effect of the degree to which we all care about this silly sport, and the fact that schools have been recruiting marginal students who love the game more than class for decades. They know they de-facto can't collude to bar scholarships to transfers anymore, so it is what it is. Every solution depends on artificially restricting the movement of certain students because someone claims to know what's good for them, but doesn't give two shits about schools poaching over club chess scholarships or offering merit aid to transferring non-athletes.

I'm all for a regime that controls movement, but they have to compensate the players to give up that flexibility. Otherwise, who among us wouldn't go someplace we liked better to play the game we love either for the last time as a competitive athlete or to take one more bite at the apple of a professional future? I think you almost have to be a touch delusional to play up to your actual FBS potential, whatever that is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nothing seems all that different yet. There really hasn't been big conference games yet to gauge much.

I think the playoffs have a chance to be interesting, but it's way to early to tell. I think the non power 4 team is going to regularly get destroyed, but that's on the transfer portal. There will be playoff drama by the 26/27 season when only one ACC or Big 12 team makes it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I was already done with the expanded playoff in week 1 when people were still outlining FSU's (then open) path to the playoff. Likewise I think that ND should be out of contention with the loss to NIU. I've said it before and I'll say it again, in a sport as intrinsically unbalanced as cfb, any playoff (much less an expanded one) makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A playoff is fine to pick the best team, a playoff with 4 spots and 5 major conferences was always dumb. 12 is also dumb, it should have just been 8.

One loss shouldn't necessarily eliminate a team, there's rarely even 4 undefeated teams. The tricky thing is going to be where they put conference championship losers.

ND deserves getting shafted for stubbornly staying independent, which is absurd for competitive sports.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If we're doing a playoff at all, I'm glad it's 12 to get the first round on campus. That at least appeals to the actual strengths of the sport.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

None of it makes sense in any sort of fairness sense, but it is a prestigious invitational tournament, and when it comes down to it, most fans found bowls and 1-2 BCS even more unsatisfying. I care more about watching playoffs than I do about watching random bowls.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's fair, I guess my view has always been about Saturdays in the fall. Even as a kid (~early 00s) I cared more about the florida game any given year and less about our bowl or the nccg.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

TBH it's got L Rizz and is pretty cheeks.

NFL too. Sad Duval noises and the Cowboys aren't helping. FML.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The helmet communications are hilarious to me. You see the qb with his hands over his ears desperately trying to hear, and its like, didn't we solve this problem already?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think people assumed that helmet comms would be deployed and simply work like the NFL. But NFL stadiums generally don't get as loud and crazy as several major CFB stadiums. Arrowhead and Lumen Field are the only two that come to mind as coming close, but how do they compare to a Penn State white out game? Or to a chorus of ringing cowbells in Starkville? Or the paddle people in Stillwater?

The silly guys on the sidelines with the signs are probably never really going to go away unless the NCAA expands the use of wearable tech like smart wristbands (some D3 schools are permitted to use them this season as a trial).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's unfortunately predominant with most changes to the sport. Playoffs, clock rules, coaching aids. But no one is taking the time to ask why these things hadn't already come to the sport. CFB will generate it's own innovation that is suitable for the sport. Heck, gatorade was invented because the gators are so bad and they were desperate to be competitive with foes from superior climates. Video review came to the sport just about when it came to the pros, because it's suited for both versions of the game. College football had already put AC in practice helmets at LSU, yet no coach was lobbying for headsets though the tech had been officially adopted by the pros over a decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think the new additions to B1G will help evolve its football playstyle even further. Until the last 2 years B10 football wasn't the most entertaining to watch. Now the additions of PAC-12 teams will test the old schools on both sides of the ball. As a neutral viewer, it's a positive. As for the college athletics, that's another matter all togther.