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It feels like Harris has to run a damn near flawless campaign just to BARELY beat this guy. Yeah you can bring up the current state of the country, but Trump mishandled COVID, there were over 200k deaths, BLM protest and was 2x impeached. And yet, Joe Biden BARELY beat him.

Trump is a convicted felon, liable sexual predator, caused an insurrection on the Capitol Hill, tried to steal the 2020 election (find me 11,000 votes), constantly kisses Russia’s ass, has more pending court cases and gets sentenced next month and overall has been the main driving factor in America’s division.

Yet, this race is STILL either 50/50 or a slight tilt (Harris leads the polling aggregate right now). Harris gets destroyed by the corporate media for almost anything, yet Trump is still lying and saying the most outlandish shit and nobody cares.

Why does it feel standards are much higher for Harris than Trump?

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[-] [email protected] 55 points 3 weeks ago

Because too many people treat politics like a sporting event. You root for your team no matter what, and against the other team. You have to do it this way, because if the other side wins that means your side loses.

So there are too many people who view Trump as "Their Guy", and are "rooting" for him. Anything they hear that might portray Trump in a negative light (like a criminal trial, for instance) must be the Other Side trying to cheat to win unfairly.

I remind people that Roger Ailes was Nixon's media consultant, and the lesson he learned from Watergate was that Nixon could have gotten away with it if the media was more sympathetic. He then went on to be the CEO of Fox News. That's no accident. There is a direct line from Nixon to Trump, and Roger Ailes drew it.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago

the lesson he learned from Watergate was that Nixon could have gotten away with it if the media was more sympathetic.

Then we got Reagan, Bush, and Trump, and he proved it.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

The media almost singlehandedly bringing Watergate to the average American's attention was why Murdoch created Fox News. It was created specifically so they could force control of the narrative to their advantage.

And then we allowed every other media corporation to be bought and do the same once they saw it worked so well.

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[-] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump is an outrage machine, and we have a media that deals in an economy of outrage.

Trump gets outrage. Outrage gets clicks. Clicks get money. It's a pretty simple chain to follow.

We need to wake up and realize that a profit-driven instantaneous news system that leverages strong emotions is not good for anybody. Truth is subjective nowadays, (always has been, really, but it's especially evident in the current media climate) and all that matters is getting information and narratives (not necessarily facts) out and people consuming it (and all the ads embedded with it) there, first, and right now.

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[-] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

The problem isn't that Harris is being held to a higher standard. The problem is that Americans think of elections the same way they think of a sporting match. It's "my team is going to win!" not "I'm going to vote for the candidate that is best aligned with my beliefs." A huge number of the people who are voting Republican are doing so because the Republican party is their "team," and damn it, their team is going to win even if it kills them.

Many years ago, I was discussing politics with a coworker (always a bad idea, but whatever). It went something like this:

"So, you don't think the less-fortunate should be able to afford medical care?" "No, of course not, everyone should be able to see a doctor."

"You don't think gay people should be allowed to marry?" "I'm not gay, but they can do whatever makes them happy."

"You support the war in Iraq, then?" "I support our troops, but the war is kind of a waste."

"We definitely should legalize weed, right?" "Um, I'd smoke it if I didn't get drug tested."

"So why are you voting Republican, then?" "My family is Republican; we always do."

[-] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

“So why are you voting Republican, then?” “My family is Republican; we always do.”

Republican politicians would eat this person and their family if it ever came to it

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

As an outsider looking in, I've seen a lot of footage of rallies and events (on both sides) that are just absolutely crazy to me. Almost dystopian. People with painted faces, all kinds of merch, hollering and shouting and cheering like it's the X Factor or a rock concert or something. You see people being interviewed outside the events and it's like a festival in the background. It's really, really bizarre. We have problems with our politics here too but not like that. I can't believe that all of those people are ACTUALLY that passionate about any policies themselves, it's just vague culture wars nonsense with a bizarre personality contest as a proxy for it.

As I say, I'm not trying to act superior. My country has its share of problems too, just a very different sort.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

You have to understand, you are seeing people of VERY low intelligence. I know that's tough to accept, but demographics are really frightening in America. Millions of voters with intelligence not very much higher than outright mental retardation. And so, the system learned long ago, you don't bother trying to get them to think you're right for the job, you don't want them thinking at all. So you just get them to ally with you as a tribe, and that way they're yours even if you're doing the opposite of what they want.

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago

Because MAGA is the largest cult in the world and they won't believe their great father could do anything wrong...

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Especially against a (1) colored (2) women (3) democrat

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Seriously... A fucking toddler will be held to a higher standard than Trump and Republicans will hold that toddler to that standard while Trump could fart on the Queens grave and Republicans would just support his "strong thoughtful message"

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

It's the same when it comes to any other countries. The right always gets away with corruption because it's expected. Whereas the left has a higher moral standpoint so it is being accused of hypocrisy and things get blown out proportion even if small scale corruption occurs. For example in UK the previous government were giving jobs and contracts to friends and family all the time and nobody cried about it. It became accepted. The new left of centre government comes in and gives a temporary pass to a donor and suddenly it's a huge scandal...

It's the same if you care for the environment and ever took a taxi somewhere, or a vegetarian or vegan and have shoes made out of leather. Sure you are doing better than everyone else to help but you are still the devil and worse than everyone else somehow...

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Kamala proposed a corporate tax hike. They will be pulling out literally All. The. Stops.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is more than a candidate. He validates and supports a state of mind. To many, he is a champion of a lifestyle and a way of thinking. That isn't something that is easy to overcome.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I think this is a big chunk of it and the other large portion is the fact that the DNC picks terrible candidates to back. Harris is leaps and bounds better than Biden, but Biden was the nominee up until a monthish ago despite everyone's objections. He barely beat Trump I'm 2020 and prior to that they backed Clinton who gave Trump four years in the White House to begin with.

They need to stop catering to the right and fucking get behind the leftist people that actually support the party.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Every politician in U.S. history has been held to a higher standards than Trump. And thank God.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

you're asking why fascists and leftists have different standards and morals?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago

I'll take racism, sexism, propaganda and capitalism for 500 Alex.

They've got pretty firm control of the business sectors through tax cut agenda. They've got pretty firm control of the farmers for the same. Through fear and propaganda they've got pretty strong control of the poor and some of the educated middle class in the rural areas. A lot of the red states are doing everything they can to impede their education systems. If you keep people from becoming educated there's less competition at the top and a lot more red voters.

All you've got to fight them are the poor and the middle class in the cities and suburbs and the occasional upper class that isn't so self-serving that they're willing to stand on everyone else.

[-] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

You ever see one of those families where the drug addicted high school dropout gets everything handed to them by the parents but the successful honor student gets beaten because they passed the entrance exam to harvard but didn't pass it good enough?

It's like that.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

I keep seeing the same bozos say they're the same

One is literally a criminal rapist who has made tens of thousands of public lies, doesn't pay contractors, and said obvious non sensensical stuff during covid leading to mass deaths and whose own ex staff warns he is an asshole.

The other is a normal person you could probably eat lunch with. She's absolutely normal.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Because Democrats want someone who will run the country and Republicans just want someone who will maintain their minority control. We are concerned for the country, they are scared for their very existence and self reflection itself is dangerous for their existence. Basically self reflection is necessary for what Democrats want to do, and it fatal for what Republicans want. So we do it, and Republicans avoid it at all costs. We get a Kamala who we hold to a high standard, they get a Trump who can punch them in the face and they'll still support him because of the party.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

A nice illustration is Republican media operatives are trying to attack Harris with "we checked with McDonald's corporate and they have no record of her working there!". For one, McD's is franchisees and I doubt corporate tracks every burger flipper. Next, of course they're trying to claim she's dishonest, but what about the greater question: Did fuckin Trump ever come anywhere near McDonald's? No, he inherited about $400 million, has misconstrued it it repeatedly ('a small loan of a million dollars', as if that is relatable either) and has never had any sort of normal job that required discipline or labor, ever.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

I think he's famously at least eaten a lot of McDonalds.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Can't believe you are asking this now. In the 70s, I don't believe any of these yokels would have been elected. Lauren Beaubert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Trump, they've all done things and said things that are so far over the line, it isn't even funny. Nixon? Please, he would be small potatoes today.

Why? Gerrymandering. Social Media. Lack of critical thinking skills. A sense of hopelessness. Apathy. Billionaire brainwashing. The list goes on. The strange thing is, conservatives want to go back to the way things were. For them that means when women had to go to back alleys to get abortions, when gays were stoned, when blacks weren't allowed to vote. For me it means when people didn't justify these ridiculous notions, but instead just said, "No!"

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

conservatives aren't conservative any more. they are radically backwards. the things they want are so far back, they don't even want democracy any more. i don't really have a say in that, but maybe the time has come to stop calling them conservative.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

It’s wild that Trump has done things far worse than watergate, and still got the nomination.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because the media is heavily conservative and advertising driven.

Giving republicans new things to throw at Kamala is the #1 priority of the news right now because they need a close race to sell ads.

Years of ownership by conservative billionaires and pundits has also saturated the media environment with a broad conservative tilt. This is why you don't see a lot of articles about why like immigration went up under trump etc.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Because the media are largely in the hands of the oligarchy that will stop at nothing to get another tax cut.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

You must be young. Because Republicans will vote for a criminal before they vote for "communism". Because the Republicans attempt to destroy the educational system to keep people dumb enough to vote for them has worked. Because dispite the corporate media pandering and acting like they want Harris Because that's what their viewers want, their billionaire owners don't. They want the republican led centrist enabled tax breaks on their money. Harris has also brought in the progressives which have zero tolerance for the centrist mindset. She is in a situation where she has to dance a dance of trying to reel in the progressives even though they are going to throw a fit when she panders to the centrists and the corporate overlords.

The system is made and controlled by the billionaires. No hard progressive that doesn't play the game a little is going to get elected... right now. They will destroy anyone that threatens their billions. Everytime she goes a little too hard left they throw a fit.

Welcome to end stage capitalism.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Cuz most ppl knows trump dumb, need to grade him on a curve.

Also, he's our spesho widdle boy who can do no wrong 👶

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

they're not voting trump they're voting against the democrat party

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Can you imagine a woman or a black man (let alone a black woman) running for president while being three-times divorced with kids from multiple partners and having cheated multiple times on top of that? Even if they were rich like Trump, it would never fly.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Obama’s political career would’ve ended the second “grab em by the p****” got leaked.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Black. Female.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Because a cult leader is automatically the purest one can be and needs no scrutiny.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

1: She's a woman of color so she has to be 75% better than average for anyone to pay attention.

2: Executed moral standards are more important to the left than the right. Declared moral standards are more important to the right.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because some Democrats have standards, and Republicans don't.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

The Republican Party and it’s base are anti-intellectual, why do you think they care about logical consistency in their politicians?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

All those things you said against Trump are actually working in his favor. His base sees it as persecution of their chosen one.

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