Tested: Google's Pixel 9 Pro models only have 13GB RAM for apps (www.androidauthority.com)

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not a big deal.

Wait until you find out how much ram gets wasted in caching and algorithms designed to run faster on computers or improve productivity. Even things like indexing to speed up search or icon caching

It's a mobile phone. 13gb is lots, and I'd be curious to see the extent that ai improves productivity.

The headline is designed explicitly to bait arguments

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

16GB of RAM sounded too good to be true. Granted 13GB is nothing for sneeze at still. Hopefully, they can provide an option to toggle it off. Sounds wasteful for people who would use it once a while.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago

It does have 16GB of RAM, though, it just reserves 3GB of it for AI stuff. I don't know what kind of AI stuff needs to be loaded in the background continuously, but running the same apps on other phones will also drain 3GB out of the embedded 16GB of RAM.

I can't really think of a reason why someone would buy the most expensive "AI phone" and then never use AI. The other Pixel models don't have this stuff, so people who won't use AI should probably just get a cheaper phone.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I bought it cause I wanted pink and I like larger phones smaller phones feel uncomfortable to hold I wish the AI stuff would get lost it's all nonsense that does nothing to improve anything and only slows you down and is an excuse for more spyware

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Only? I have just 8 GB RAM on My PC.

And Android device which I am using to comment this have just 2GB RAM.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Chrome casually using 8gbs with a few tabs open. Also windows 11. I got a school laptop and windows uses 5gb out of the box💀. Linux supremacy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Your OS is not necessarily using those 8gb, it just reserved them, meaning other apps can still use it

[-] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago

No thats virtual ram that works differently. Virtual ram is usually much more than 8gb.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Chrome using 8gbs ram is not necessarily a bad thing

Usually browsers use a lot because nothing else is using the ram. If you had a separate program running, the browser would stop using as much.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Shhh if you take away their illogical reasons to b**** about stupid things they'll find more annoying things to b**** about. Just nod and say yeah buddy too bad about that ram somebody should do something about that, and back away slowly.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Only?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

They have 16GB of RAM physically, 3GB is reserved for AI. So yeah, only 13GB is usable by regular apps, even if you don't care about any of the AI stuff.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Seriously, what app is capable of saturating 13GB?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

It's not about a single app, it's about multitasking without having to reload apps.

At various times I've juggled between 4 apps at once on my phone. Say something like Messaging, Firefox, maybe a lemmy app, and Bitwarden for logging into something.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Me too, and I've never had an issue juggling those apps on my Pixel 6 with 8gb RAM.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

How did google manage to make a version of linux more bloated than windows? It's almost impressive.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

For the same reason turning off a screen in Android works in less than a second and doesn't drain your battery in half an hour while modern standby still barely works in Linux: optimisations.

Android is made to cache and freeze processes when switching apps. The more RAM you have, the more apps can have ready to go in an instant. When an app gets swapped out to storage, it's very clearly noticeable, and many apps don't bother to store state either. The Android approach to slick multitasking is to open as many applications as can fit in RAM, which is why apps launch faster than many Linux applications, even on much faster SSDs.

RAM really isn't that expensive, and the power savings of rarely ever initialising applications is worth it.

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