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  • Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris. 
  • Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
  • Biden's withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

You guys realize that Biden waited until after the RNC to announce this right? He's making this as hard as possible for them to pivot. You had hundreds of people in the same city, building strategies for their campaign. He had made sure that Kamala would have the delegates secured to ensure there would be no in-fighting for the next candidate. They did little to stop the media in going down the rabbit hole of the all-consuming news that he should drop out. They used it for their advantage to create a positive whirl wind around Kamala. Truly brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At the time it was frustrating, but in hindsight this was all clearly orchestrated. A brilliant move by the Democrats and an incredible act of patriotism by President Biden. His legacy is secured in perpetuity.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Some 5D chess

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nice thought exercise but in reality an old man got COVID and was finally convinced that he was a losing gambit.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Biden is now a man with nothing to lose and a supreme court that said presidents can do any damn thing they please

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Just like we drew it up.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I would love him to do such extreme things they have no choice but to retract the rulings and put in further protections.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Executive order to club the kneecaps of the supreme judges. Every Monday morning.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Like fire the few unqualified corrupt shitheads that were appointed by a felon rapist traitor? Judges appointed by traitors that follow Putin's will should no longer be judges. It's a matter of national security.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately he won't do anything with that at all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But why leave a quiet legacy when you can spend 6 months earning a whole page in a high school history book?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why would you come with a campaign tweaked against a specific opponent and not with a program that is the best for the majority of the citizen? Politics is really stupid especially in 2024!

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is starting to look like an effective strategy for the Democrats to drain Republican funds: don't announce your actual candidate until August.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

The US election cycle is too long anyway. I'm very for this idea.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Spot on. For once (not really, but this doesn't happen as often as it needs to) the Democrats are outsmarting their opponents. Let's make this the norm. All of us working together towards a common sense future.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Calling it now.

They'll say it's a conspiracy and Biden is running things behind the scenes as head of the deep state, Kamala is just a puppet

He's gonna be the forever bogeyman.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

So many strings to keep track of!

Biden is controlling Harris! Obama is controlling Biden! Soros is controlling Obama! Satan is controlling Soros! God is controlling Satan... Wait...

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago

They're upset. So? They're always upset. Make them more upset by voting Democrat in the upcoming election.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

GOP: "Your candidate is unfit for office."

Dems: "Okay, we got a new candidate."

GOP: shocked pikachu

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (22 children)

No no not like that! We're going to sue!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They're going to, probably in every single red state.

They're going to throw so much shit at the wall due to election ballot timing that unfortunately I think something will stick.. it more than likely wont be legitimate, but we have way too many corrupt judges out there :(

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (8 children)

If there is any way Mississippi and Arkansas can keep a black woman Democrat off the ballot, they will find it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (20 children)

Incidentally, there's a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can't tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore. They'll tell us not to vote for whoever is going to be his replacement though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Eh, their new dissent orders seem to be "Biden can't appoint Harris! I didn't vote for her!" which, of course, displays a total lack of knowledge about what primaries are and what the DNC is.

They didn't want Biden to run, and now they mysteriously don't want the person most of the party supports to run either.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Right? It’s almost as if they’ve never been approaching any of this in good faith.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The uptick in those types of accounts makes this site start to feel like 2016 reddit 😂. Lemmy has become large enough to justify investment of bots to brigade and astroturf; we've made it!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

I'm seeing a lot of "wHat AbOuT A pRimArY" already from the usual bad actors.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (38 children)

You know what I’m not seeing?

ANY of these accounts that were so relentless in their criticism of Biden and how he needed to step down because otherwise the Democrats would lose, being simply happy about this.

ALL of the tentative happiness about Harris maybe being a stronger candidate than Biden was, is coming from people who were either neutral or defending Biden before. The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent, and a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was one of them and now am elated to vote for a non-geriatric piece of shit and a woman.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You know my history regarding Biden. Go on, check my history since Biden did the right thing and dropped out. I'm still posting and not so much as an unkind word about Harris. Biden did the right thing. The party did the right thing. I'm overjoyed that for the first fucking time in far too goddamned long, Democrats listened instead of digging in their heels and demanding votes, every pore reeking of entitled paternalist condescension.

You were wrong. Your shitty candidate bowed out like you didn't want him to, and just look. The party has very much gotten in line behind Kamala. The predicted chaos and infighting hasn't happened. She's had the best fundraising in US history simply by being the understudy who was present at the time and not being Biden.

The people who were giving a firehose of criticism to Biden and demanding that it was MANDATORY for him to step down, for the good of the Democrats and the country, have for the most part fallen silent

Have you considered that it's because they're finally satisfied? At least for now? Harris is a reasonable compromise candidate. Biden wasn't, and he listened to reason and bowed out. We're better for it.

a whole new grouping has arisen to give criticism to Harris and say that as good progressives they could never vote for a cop.

Democrats are a big tent. Some of us don't like genocide. Some of us don't like cops. Some of us don't like either. Harris is in a better position to distance herself from past actions than Biden was about ongoing actions.

She ran on full cannabis legalization in 2020 and was a sponsor of the Justice in Policing Act of 2020. It ain't gonna stick.

I'm glad Biden dropped out.

Are you?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The problem with a 2 party system is that it is a lot easier to make the opposition look bad rather than make your candidate look good.

So all these MAGAs lost a lot of money since their smear campaign of Biden is now worth nothing and they will have to start over.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Sleepy Donald is upset. He should take a nap.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He’s so old, I can’t believe this is what they’re running.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's pretty sad, really. I'd be embarrassed if I were them.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do they think the dems didn’t spend a bunch promoting Biden?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The nice thing about spending money in support of a candidate is that if that candidate withdraws and chooses to back another candidate then most of that campaign money spent is still a net positive.

Whereas, the GOP's entire attack strategy almost certainly focused on just Biden and not a whole lot of policy attacks. With Biden out, that money may as well be a pile of cash they lit on fire. They've also spent quite a bit on content they haven't released yet that is no longer relevant to this election.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

They're pretty good at wasting money if you look at the last few republican presidencies. Spend spend spend, but not on American citizens. That would be socialism.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're going to be mad no matter what. When Democrats try to pass Republican legislation they get mad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

That's because they have an opposition based moral system instead of one based on good and evil. The only way to beat Republicans is never to play their games since the only way to win their game (in their eyes) is to fall in their ranks (agreeing with them sometimes doesn't make them like you either).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Oh did your sure thing evaporate now that you're not running against a dementia patient?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Please don't. They might enjoy it and the thought of making more of them is sickening

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Of course they are mad. The Republican strategy up until this point has been to attack the incumbent, but now the incumbent is no longer running for re-election. Trump literally doesn't know how to deal with this situation. His whole shtick is to attack the person currently in charge, but that doesn't do shit for him now.

A big part of why he lost in 2020, imo, is that he didn't have anybody to blame for all the bad shit happening in the country at the time. He himself was in charge and could only say "things will get worse under Biden", but people were sick of Covid fucking up our lives and the endless scandals that hit the news daily.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Starting the pool on how long till TFG forgets who he's now running against and starts rantng about Biden at a rally.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the Republicans should do the same thing then and have Trump stop running.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Maybe they should have spent time and money promoting their candidate instead of attacking the other

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is really what it boils down to. But with Trump there is nothing to promote. The only way they can win is by ruining the reputation of their opponent to try to make them look worse.

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