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[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (23 children)

These "tankies" are conservative right-wing shitbag trolls trying to convince the normal people that supporting oppression and dictators is somehow "left-wing". Do not fall for their conservative bullshit.

Just like any other conservative, every word they utter is deception or manipulation. Tankies are conservative trolls through and through.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (5 children)

That's a no true Scotsman argument.

There are plenty of actual tankies here. In fact, the Lemmy software is created by tankies and one of the larger Lemmy instances is run by them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

From what I've seen, there's a big divide amongst the tankies. There are those who are basically Stalin MAGA, base their political opinions on Soviet aesthetics and don't consider much the practical implications of their actions. Some simply lash out against mainstream liberal ideology and others are just trolls.

Ane the other camp is made of people who read a lot of communist philosophy and are absolutely convinced the only way to achieve an equal society is by forcing everyone into it. This has its own problems, but they at least have an internally coherent ideology.

That's not to say I agree with either camp. Their ideology promotes a vanguard party which can quickly spiral into "some are more equal than others". Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that. But I do understand where the second camp is coming from. I think the path to a better world lies in trade unions and people coming together to defend common interests.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (78 children)

When they are actively censoring and banning people who make critical comments about the PRC, the USSR, or even present day Russia, I don't care where they come from.

I was banned from lemmy.ml myself for saying something about the Tiananmen Square massacre.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Both r/conservative and lemmy.ml are equally frightened of facts.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (68 children)

Fuck all imperialist and hierarchical power structures. Fuck colonialism and fuck the police. Fuck fascists and the libs that enable them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Xi Jinping is a fascist, and I don't think it was liberals that enabled him

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (9 children)

Xi's also an imperialist and implemented a hierarchical government. Nothing I said was paradoxical. Fuck 'em all.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'll never not be mad that humanity didn't hold off on assigning this slang until the existence of think-tanks.

Tankie would have been PERFECT to describe the scumbags who fund them, the shills who operate them, and the simps who suck their dicks and guzzle their ~~jizz~~"policies"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (11 children)

I had one of these fucks try to tell me that North Korea is very democratic.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Easy, NK: One man, one vote. Thus democratic.

And the man? It's Kim.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They literally have democratic in their name!!1!1!! /s

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

That's the average lemmy.ml user

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Now, I don't like violence. But even I can see that there's a difference between violence waged for imperialism and violence waged against imperialism.

And you can see the difference too. That's why Obama and Biden always say that their wars are being waged "for freedom". That's why you accept the violence of historical revolutions like the American Revolution.

The problem is, Obama and Biden are lying when they say their wars are for freedom. Their wars are for profit and control.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Their wars are for profit and control.

And USSR, China etc were different?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (3 children)

People here claiming it's not the case are just wrong. I've been banned from multiple instances and had posts deleted by these bozos. Actually authoritarians lol

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (27 children)

Lemmy was originally built by and for tankies, so this is completely unsurprising. The .ml TLD on the original instance isn't a coincidence.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (13 children)

I can agree with the text while being against the authoritarians pictured.

I just hope people don't think that everyone complaining about US imperialism is somehow fine with Russian or Chinese actions of the same hue.

The US as least has a flawed democracy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Still have yet to see more than a lone tankie on any thread

Plenty of people vaguely gesturing at lemmy.ml for some reason thiugh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You must have missed out on the great Lemmy he bear plague of 2023, back before they got themselves federated by everyone.

Literally any comment you made was brigade's by commies attacking your lack of anti capitalism.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lots of straw man wrestlers in this thread. 🥹

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (16 children)

I'd upvote the meme if it wasn't also controversial to criticize all war criminals, including both those at the top and the bottom.

Edit: For a source, see people in this thread rushing to argue and feel called out when someone criticizes "all forms of imperialism", including the Western ones.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

It's weird that Mao, Sun Yat Sen, and Chiang Kai Shek, were all part of the same pro-democracy party early on in China's civil war.

Mao won the war, Sun Yat Sen got out of there, Chiang Kai Shek was pushed out and became dictator of Taiwan.

China is weird.

Also weird is that one guy caused most of the deaths from famine in both the USSR and China: A conman named Trofim Lysenko, who was lying about having a new science of agriculture... He was bury seeds way further than they could handle then faking his results to keep his job.... Killed like, 30 million people who were ordered to take up his techniques.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

hexbear has entered the chat

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (10 children)

I was in discussion (if you can even call it that) with someone and when he spoke about "Occupied Korea" i knew there was no point what so ever to continue.

There's no laddar long enough in the world to climb out of that hole.

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