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The first African-born MP to enter the German parliament has announced he will not be standing in next year’s federal election, weeks after he revealed the hate mail, including racist slurs and death threats, he and his staff had received.

Karamba Diaby, 62, who entered the Bundestag in 2013 in a moment hailed as historic by equality campaigners, said he wanted to spend more time with his family and to make room for younger politicians.

Diaby said the racist slurs and death threats were “not the main reasons” for his decision, having frequently emphasised he would not be cowed by threats. But they are widely believed they have played a part.

He has increasingly faced racist abuse in recent years. His constituency office in Halle, Saxony Anhalt, has been an arson target, and has had bullets fired through the window. Some staff have faced blackmail attempts to stop them working for him and have been subjected to and threats, Diaby said.

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 5 months ago (6 children)

This guy has been living in East Germany since fucking 1985. It saddens me to read this. Fuck the AfD.

[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Fuck the AfD Voters...I've been destroying years of friendships, because it turns out they voted AfD. I'm sick and tired of these fuckers enabling these clowns. This is definitely not my Germany anymore.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The friendship purge hurts.. it's tough to see that people you knew for years are lost like that.

I also feel kind of helpless with the current political climate. I don't get why people are so hateful and stupid otherwise they would see right through the BS Höcke et al are making up all the time >.<

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It sucks, for sure. As an American, I went through this back in 2016, and in the years since - with another notable wave occurring after January 6th.

It’s frustrating, but I genuinely do feel a moral duty to aggressively shun and abuse fascists, no matter how long I’ve known them or how I’m related to them before I found out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's not just a moral duty, it's a damn duty for your country. Those idiots shouting "We are the true patriots" have lost everything both our countries stood for since we lost the war and you won it. The respect for people, the respect for different cultures, the knowledge that many of the laws our societes stand on are written in blood - hell, the respect to disagree and the ability do have different opinions.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

I totally sympathize. A lot of us Americans had to do the same thing back in 2016. I cut off contact with a lot of people and have never gotten back in touch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Keeping these friendships going could combat their radicalization, but I'm not faulting you, I also cancelled friendships over this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have no issue if political views don't line up, in fact I welcome discussions and I have been wrong many times on some topics. However, the line has to be drawn somewhere, and that somewhere is openly advocating for racism or other views, that simply cannot stand in a society that aligns with modern "western" views. (Too many individual points that we take for granted these days)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Meanwhile these people say the same thing about immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I cancelled all of the friendships I have with radicalized people, I would almost certainly have to isolate my little family completely.

I do try to talk time back over the line, but I don’t think I have ever succeeded.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I wish you luck, but that simply isn't possible with some, they are too far gone.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Nazis gonna nazi. Shameful.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In Germany? I thought they got rid of those.......like........a while ago.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

After the war most Nazis were allowed to keep working in government (and elsewhere) cause who else knew how to run the country?

And it’s less they got rid of them, and more others came over and kicked their arse forcing them to “get rid of them”.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That process was a bad joke.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think so.

Only now are Nazis getting a foot hold again, at the same time they are getting a foot hold across the world. It is the after effects of the 2008 crash and Putin putting his thumb on scales where he can (troll farms and corruption).

The fact Germany doesn't stick out as more Nazi that France, or the US, or others, means the original denazification worked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

No, they surely didn't just gain a foothold again. Many processes for "denazifizierung" were just a rubber stamping of the claims of the perpetrators. It's so ridiculous and well known that the term "Persilschein" was coined because of it. High ranking judges in the federal courts were Nazi perpetrators that even by the standards back then never should have been able to hold a job in the justice system ever again.
Places like the BND or BfV were more like SS- and other Nazi perpetrator pension schemes. Himmlers daughter, glowing Nazi for her whole life, worked for the BND as a secretary in the 60s under a false name. And they knew who she was.

Also, a big part of the student protest in the late 60s also was that many of their professors were just plain Nazis. Law commentaries like the "Palandt" or "Schönfelder" were named after Nazis and the names just changed in 2021.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

What? France famously did not get rid of its own collabos, and the US was always fascist leaning even back then. Given how ridiculously aggressive the AfD campaigns, I'm actually more worried about their 16% than I do about the RN's 30%.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago

definitely related to the AfD's recent success during the EU election

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

His constituency office in Halle, Saxony Anhalt, has been an arson target, and has had bullets fired through the window.

Weird that this doesn’t come up until the 10th paragraph of the article.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It says it right underneath the title.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That means an editor decided to draw attention to it. The journalist still buried it deep in the article.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was still mentioned at the top of the article and you missed it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

For context the shots fired on his office were in 2020 and the arson was last year, while that is awful I wouldn't try to frame them too much as the cause for his retirement.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is just sad, will things ever change?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Only if we do a better job teaching our kids to not grow up to be nazis, racists, or easy marks for manipulate dishonest politicians.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

While I applaud him for wanting to make room for younger politicians, I'm sure the death threats, arson attacks and bullets were greater factors. This world sucks.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In case anyone is curious, there's also Aramand Zorn, SPD (just like Diaby), Awet Tesfaiesus, Greens, and Harald Weyel, AfD, of all parties. Also happens to be the only native-born German.

Diaby is member of the SPD, their left wing on top of that which makes him a target for Nazis in the first place and his skin colour of course isn't helping. Neither is his constituency being in the east though do note that he didn't get into the Bundestag over the party list, he won a FPTP seat.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Germany needs more black politicians

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I often wish people in these situations tough it out, because of they don't, who will make the difference? Stepping down gets you one news article and then everyone forgets.

I respect his choice though, and it's another kind of heroic to put yourself and your family's safety first.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Sad he faced so much racism. I understand why he is doing this.

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