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A group of influential Republican senators has sent a letter to International Criminal Court (ICC) chief prosecutor Karim Khan, warning him not to issue international arrest warrants against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli officials, and threatening him with “severe sanctions” if he does so.

In a terse, one-page letter obtained exclusively by Zeteo, and signed by 12 GOP senators, including Tom Cotton of Arkansas, Florida’s Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz of Texas, Khan is informed that any attempt by the ICC to hold Netanyahu and his colleagues to account for their actions in Gaza will be interpreted “not only as a threat to Israel’s sovereignty but to the sovereignty of the United States.”

“Target Israel and we will target you,” the senators tell Khan, adding that they will “sanction your employees and associates, and bar you and your families from the United States.”

In their letter, the dozen Republican senators remind Khan that the U.S. “demonstrated in the American Service-Members’ Protection Act the lengths to which we will go to protect [its] sovereignty.”

The ASPA, signed into law by George W. Bush in 2002, has since become widely known as “The Hague Invasion Act” because it authorizes the U.S. president “to use all means necessary and appropriate” to bring about the release not just of U.S. persons but also allies who are imprisoned or detained by the ICC.

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[–] [email protected] 161 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I dunno, it seems to me that if someone starts threatening you over something you’re investigating, you should probably take that as a sign to investigate even harder…

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Note that the American domestic fascist party also supports a (foreign) jewish nationalist ethnostate (zionism), despite being the main group promoting antisemitism domestically.

It's almost like authoritarians and fascists are defined by their authoritarianism and fascism — authoritarians of a feather, genocide together — instead of their religion, race, or ethnicity...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The common factor between their support of Zionism and their domestic antisemitism, is hate. They support Zionism since they hate the Muslims. They're domestically antisemitic because they hate the Jews. They're motivated and driven by hate. They are the poison that the civilized world dies on.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There's an additional aspect. An interpretation of the end-times prophecy. Some believe (primarily evangelicals) that God promised the Holy Land to the Jewish people, and that reestablishing Israel's political boundaries will begin the end times. So as much as they may hate the Jews, they must be in power in Israel.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure a lot of it has to do with campaign donations as well. The party is full of hate, but I feel these politicians are just mouthpieces for their donors in their own personal pursuit of power and wealth.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Exactly, Christians have no pious convictions or beliefs. They say and do whatever they’re paid to say or is convenient

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (5 children)

So america has a "right" to invade my country if the ICC prosecutes a non american war criminal? Huh.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The euphemistically named 'Hague invasion law' actually only promises to take any action necessary to avoid being held responsible. In real terms though, any military action against Hague will deeply polarize the world and destroy the current world order where the US enjoys some dominance and influence. The resulting scenario will see the US attracting the hostility of a lot of formerly allied nations. It will be worse than being held responsible at the ICC. So you're kind of safe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

You say that like a significant number of these Republican's donors would not salivate over being able to fracture the US from world politics like that.

...Russia. I'm talking about Russia, if you're unaware.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The American Republican party has been trying to break the UN for decades under the theory that our sovereignty allows us to take unilateral action globally and the UN is a threat to that. They sell it domestically as any law we pass because of the UN is an impingement on our freedoms and sovereignty. But it's pretty blatantly about their foreign policy goals. And when I mean sell it, I mean literally. There are books you can buy where the UN has "invaded" the US after the Democrats let immigration get so bad we lost all civil order and of course it's 300 pages of militiamen using painstakingly described weapons to fight the UN forces.

We really do have some crazy people and they got organized after we elected our first black president.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

Kinda wild, especially since they leave other Americans to rot in foreign prisons. I highly doubt they'd actually do it though, and if they do I hope the EU shoots those troops out of the sky if they really dare to take hostile action. I think it's just stupid strongmen policy to appear tough.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

This is the military-happy wing, so they really don't need much excuse. The "tougher" something sounds, the better. In their view anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

An they unironically use "sovereignty" as the justification.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Well no. Nobody has a right to invade your country. But we'll do it anyways. We really are that stupid.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I was today years old when I discovered the US is Russia with better PR.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

lol. Look up what we’ve done to South America. We just eradicate the noise better it seems.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish people would stop saying the USA can't sink any lower, because every time this is said, we prove it wrong. x_x

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

"The bar was so low it was a tripping hazard in hell, and yet here you are, Limbo dancing with the devil."

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children)

But they really want the ICC to have Putin, huh

Maybe they don't, I don't know. Republicans are kind of unpredictable on that.

I'm not even saying the ICC should judge the case in any particular way, just that a court should be able to go through the process they need in order to make a judgement.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

No they don't, and that's just another reason to use the veil of Judaism to attack them. They just want to have their oil and gas (in both cases).

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

It’s not even all of the GOP. It’s only 12 of the dumbest. Can we just vote these members out already? Honestly, nobody cares what Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz think about anything. Last I checked they’re even losing ground in their own states. They can’t make any of these threats real and I hope the ICC charges Netanyahu as quick as possible just to spite them.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do it. Call their bluff. Fucking hosers. All empty threats anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Here's the letter from the article if anyone wants to read it (only one page).

The first part is simping for israel, last two paragraphs is where it devolves into literal threats.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That reads like a highschool drama, WTF is the whole world gone coocoo ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

It's not exactly our best and brightest.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

US senators are interfering, influencing/lobbying for the interests of the Israeli government. But, can't call it security infiltration into the US government and politics. Because the foreign government is not China or Russia. The Hypocrisy of the US Government. 🤡

openly threatening the international tribunal's chief prosecutor. this only shows that international law and principles are good only if they favor the US government's interests.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

I don't know why the ICC should even bother about whatever the US has to say when they even threaten to invade them, while pretty much all civilized countries recognize the ICC. Especially those particular senators, which are kinda the creme de la creme of asocial bullshitters.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why do Republicans even care? The US has excluded itself from the ICC and our government holds no treaties to enforce any agreements or arrest warrants held by the ICC.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Rapture death cult

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

These same senators are responsible for spouting tongs of other of nonsense, I wouldn't take it too seriously and don't make up the majority of even the insane wing of the GOP. Not saying this is not a threat that, for example, Trump might make if he gets elected but for now I would take this with a grain of salt. They're just puffing up their chests for their own base here, as usual.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They're suss lol

They're implicit somehow and the ICC is going to make their life difficult.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

These braindead GOP bastards can go fuck themselves

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

He doesn't work for you, he doesn't answer to you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Add those senators to the list! Aiding and abetting, boot licking sycophants

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Funny, though, that Republicans are banging the Law and Order gong as loud as possible, but when it actually comes to bring criminals in front of Judges (Trump in the US, Netanyahu in The Hague), they fight Law and Order with tooth and nail.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

That's exactly why they say it over and over. It's just brainwashing to keep you thinking they give a shit about the law.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

List of beings I want to see in Hauge:

  1. Putin from Russua(Putin)
  2. Putin from Belarus(Lukashenko)
  3. Putins from other countries

EU when ECHR says some law contradicts human rights: "oh well, now this law is unenforceable and autorepealed".

USSA when ICC thinks about issuing arrest warrant: "I'm gonna invade you".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not the most well read person around but why was there a letter disclosed exclusively to some obscure news agency? Or is it a well known agency that I've just never heard of?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Zeteo is new, created by Mehdi Hasan who was fired from ~~CNBC~~ MSNBC because of his critical coverage of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Mehdi Hasan recently created Zeteo because MSNBC fired him, most likely because he kept calling out the israeli spokesperson Mark Regev for lying all the time.

Because the public is desperate for news agencies which aren't fully powered by Zionist propaganda their launch was pretty huge and he got a lot of paid subscribers.

Zeteo is currently one of the most reputable news agencies. They're employing a lot of major news names, many which got fired from mainream positions for speaking the truth about israel.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean they don't have control of the house or the Senate.

so how would they do this?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think netanyahu should be let out into gaza on his own, just with a water pistol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No no, let him have real military equipment. Let him feel like a badass until he collapses under the literal weight of it all and is immobilized and left to die

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He would be a nice street light decoration, but unfortunately there aren't many of those left in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good. I'd love nothing more than the US sanction ICC members and European countries refuse to execute arrest warrants on Israeli officials. This charade of "rules based order" has gone on too long, let them be exposed for what they actually are, hypocrites.

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