the problem isn't switching, the problem is making all the other people using It to switch too, not everyone cares about security or ads

I hate this recommendation because Matrix is just a terrible user experience. It has basically nothing of value over Discord other than being open source. Which is important but it's not enough to counteract the amount of basic quality of life stuff that is just absolutely trash garbage on Matrix. Stuff that no normal user is going to put up with.

If Discord does end up completely eviscerating itself the replacement will just be some new upstart closed Source program that is shiny just like how Discord took over from Slack it will not be the rise of Open Source because open source developers have no concept of user experience.

I mean we don't even need to start talking about how bad all the client options are and how half the features don't work and all that. You can look no further than the login system. Average users do not like want or accept having multiple options for logging in. There's a reason that irc, teamspeak, mumble despite in many ways being objectively Superior especially in the case of the voice chats ended up relegated to only nerds like us. Because no one else is willing to deal with keeping track of servers to connect with or how to cross join or add users.

Same reason that Lemmy is like 90% technical users that are already invested in something like Linux. The average user got frustrated by how fragmented everything is how many duplicate channels and content you would find between instances and how difficult it was to search instances in the first place. I am here because I can ultimately work around those emoians, but the average person? Is not willing to and they shouldn't have to

With how much they been cash grabbing, I'm not surprised.

If only I could convince 30 people I barely know to switch platforms.

I’m constantly looking for something that could replace discord for me, I need something like the discord screen/game streaming to consider changing apps.

But I thought we cold have free support in realtime with security updates for free forever?

Some are and some aren't. Like a lot of folks on here are here because reddit went to shit.

According to my iPhones privacy viewer it’s almost worse than Facebook.

To be fair, there was a time before Discord. People once used MSN, Skype, Teamspeak, IRC, etc.

They shouldn't get too comfortable with the idea that people won't just up and leave.

This. Open source apps are generally awful at presenting themselves to a broader audience.

Even for me, who's technical enough, an app being FOSS is not enough to even bother checking out. Yes, I've said it. Sorry, tinfoils, but I do put features above else. And, want it or not, general public does the same: if the featureset is not clear enough at first glance, and an app doesn't explicitly provide clarity on what it does and how it is better than competition, most people aren't even checking it out.

So is Matrix and it includes self-hosting and end-to-end encryption enabled by default.

Isn't Mumble just a voice chat software? I don't think that is the main use case for Discord for most people.

I didn't get past the sign in page because I was having too much fun looking at all of the localization options for their website.

The default is "🇺🇸 English (Simplified)", but they have "☠️Pirate", "Toki Pona", "🥹Bottom", "😸OwO", "🪄 Enchantment Table", and many other funny options.

I just installed it after I ran into it on some other Lemmy comment. I was hoping to replace discord with it.

• clicking on a voice room doesn't actual join it. You still need to dial in
• I can't see who is currently in/using the voice room.
• doesnt seem to remember me granting mic access
• doesn't seem to support screen sharing

It just feels like it isn't "there" just yet? Unless I'm missing something?

If I showed it to friends of mine today and they had my experience I'm sure they'd go back to discord.

Not hating on the devs though. The product itself seems to be coming along nicely.

The news broke yesterday sooooo

SMS? You mean the paid, vendor lock-in, MITMable traffic? Possibly one of the only options that is actually worse than Discord