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For real - Trump would have sent whole squadrons of B-52s to carpet bomb Gaza without warning or allowance for any civilian evacuation.

I voted uncommitted in my primary on Tuesday. But I am sure as shit voting for the Democratic nominee, whoever it turns out to be, but realistically, it’s going to be Biden.

I understand precisely how central the US is to world stability at large. I’m not trying to claim the US is perfect, or unambiguously good - we have absolutely done a lot of shitty things over the years. I will assert that the world would likely be a lot more dangerous in a holistic sense if it weren’t for the US’s post-WW2 leadership in the western hemisphere.

First thing trump would do is stop all Ukraine aid and give Putin the green light, second thing he'd do is withdraw from NATO.

Yes all of this. And also, even if Palestine was in no way on the ballot in November, that doesn't mean it's not worth it to vote for the guy who is much better in all the ways that are on the ballot

He literally said today that he will never stop supporting and arming Israel.

I wish more people understood you some deescalate by screaming we're going to kick your ass and force you to stop. That is unless you all want the US fighting on a third front and are willing to eat that cost.

I feel like if it really mapped so cleanly onto the trolley problem, there wouldn't need to be 4 paragraphs of text included throughout the meme in an attempt to head off any arguments...

Whenever this gets discussed, a bunch of status quo warriors pop out of wells to say "Trump is worse." Like, no shit.

Yes, but it still needs to be said every time because it would be detremental to leave even the tiniest chance for this (valid) critique of Biden to help Trump in the presidential election. That is why I think it's inportant to point out the obvious (Trump is way worse) because it is obvious to most but might not be to some and it would be a massive Issue if those people could take this discourse as reason not to vote for Biden in november.

The way they talk, Biden is the greatest thing ever.

I dont care that they have to vote for him to avoid Trump, that sucks but i get it.

But I cannot tolerate the maga cult levels of delusion they use to support him. Just admit hes shit and that all he offers is not being Trump, at least that shows a sign that maybe you would at least want to fix the system after the election.

thank you! fully agree. i’m slowly getting a handle on this rhetoric posting thing 🙃

eh, you're still effectively supporting trump by not voting for the party that can actually win instead.

It's not as bad as voting for trump, but it's still giving him a better shot at winning than he would have if you voted for biden

But if I'm a leftist, wouldn't I rather any candidate win over the furthest right one?

Obviously I'd want a leftist to be the president, but US politics doesn't work outside of the binary. I voted third party in 2016 and regretted it a lot.

you know what, you are absolutely correct and i would have the same criticism about this post if i saw someone else post it.

i think my mind slipped when i was putting it together and typed words that meant more than i did. my fault.

ill make an effort to fix this.

It is equivalent to not voting at all, at worst.

And this only because some places won't count your votes if the difference isn't big enough to swing the election. This ought to be illegal, but it isn't.

To accuse others of being complicit for voting you first have to admit voting works in some way.

This is the opposite?

lol