The villain in the hunger games is literally called Capital
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even more exact its called The Capital
or in german: Das Kapital
Aha! So the bad guys ARE the communists, why else would they be named after his book?
The Kurt Russel profile picture is from Death Proof where he plays a psycho car guy that kills women.
lol, I didn't notice it was Kurt/make the connection. I was just like, "wow this guy made a massive effort to try and make smoking seem cool. is this the 60s?"
It's a well acted character that gets his comeuppance but it is telling the guy used it for his profile. It's like a boomer version of a Tyler Durden profile pic.
Yes, the vast majority of proleterian right-wingers do genuinely believe they are fighting the evil system that oppresses us. This is simply effective propaganda at play.
It really is amazing to see how much they really think the democrats are Stalin and they are the kids in red dawn.
Eh, as much as I like Star Wars, the rebels and the empire are both narratively and aesthetically vague enough that people can imprint their politics on them pretty easily. The Empire can be Trump, or Biden, or Stalin or Hitler, the rebels can be communists or libertarian sovereign state weirdos. It's just "little guy vs big guy", the specifics of the politics can be whatever you want them to be. I think that's why we all geeked out over Andor cuz Andor actually put some narrative meat on the rebels backstory that made them a bit more clearly leftist inspired.
I've grown skeptical of media that can generic "rebels" fighting generic "empires" cuz the truth is everyone thinks of themselves as the underdog, so everyone is gonna think they're the rebels. It's not leftist coded it's just basic storytelling.
The Ewoks get a lot of shit but they're like very clearly a jungle militia á la the viet cong, albeit with George Lucas' weird racism about them being some sort of tribal backwater.
Even with that, I see a lot of "noble savage" good guys in lib media too, the hero's find some tribe of hippies who worship a tree or whatever and they help them fight the cartoonishly evil corporation run by a slug demon or something. Libs just see them as hippies who love nature and free love and CHUDs just see them as trad who are free from 5G towers and the idea the earth is round. There's no actual anti-colonialism analysis there just vibes.
Again I like Star Wars and think Lucas was trying to be progressive in his own 70s boomer way but it is mostly just a SciFi fairy tale with good guys and bad guys with some vague left v right coding, vague enough everyone can put their own spin on it.
I generally agree on your statement with the vagueness here, especially once you factor in stuff like the force and such, but I don't think a chud is going to look at an Ewok and think "based, this is me". They're too cute coded for that
Probably not, but still if you asked a Chud Star Wars fan about the Ewoks they'd probably pull something like that out of their ass. They've probably never thought about it much till someone inquires them about it, then they manifest some sort of explanation for it.
FYI, I've met a decent number of CHUDs who have a fetishized admiration for Native Americans. As stupid as that sounds they seem to be into the idea of society of trad men who hunt buffalo all day. Of course they think the US was totally justified in genociding them and that modern Native Americans are all lazy drunks but they think the aesthetics are cool cuz it lines up with their BS imagine if independent men living off the land or whatever.
the hero's find some tribe of hippies who worship a tree or whatever and they help them fight the cartoonishly evil corporation run by a slug demon or something
Based and Ferngully: The Last Rainforestpilled
The "both sides" argument really doesn't work when one side builds and uses a gun that blows up planets lololol. I don't know what was vague about the Death Star hahahaha
Yeah there's really only one allegory in history for the Death Star and it's the Americans nuking Japan. All the bad guys are white men with British accents and dress like Nazis. Lucas couldn't have been less subtle. There's no political commissars, no "big brother" posters, none of the usual vague allusions to the evil Soviets that most generic bad guys get saddled with. No one wears an ushanka or a greatcoat. The enemy soldiers are literally called Stormtroopers. They use gigantic battleships to launch swarms of fighter aircraft with which to attack the good guys. Their super-weapon is their absolute trump-card and the whole military side of the narrative revolves around destroying ~~America's nuclear capacity~~ the Death Star.
Blowing up a planet is just a generic "evil thing", it's like kidnapping a princess or burning down a village. People can imprint their values onto it, if you point out that their side has done the equivalent of planet blowing uping plenty, even more than the people they perceive as "The Empire" they can just dream up some justification.
Back to Andor, Andor shows The Empire doing evil shit that's a much closer analog to actual evil shit actual empire is doing in the world right now, it's harder to deny your side is The Empire the (though CHUDs will always at least try and pull off the mental gymnastics to do so).
Edit: also idk where you got "both sides" from my comment, my argument wasn't that Star Wars isn't clear on who the villain is, quite the opposite, just that's it's politics are vague enough that people can imagine the villains as being anyone they don't like. CHUDs see the Empire as culture-Marxist woke SJWs just as easily as leftists see the Empire as the U$A.
Andor was almost too good for star wars
the whole "the empire is basically using slavery and ramping up the horror to try to build the death star (analog for first atomic bomb) as fast as possible before the risk of a popular revolt becomes impossible to defend against".
the fact you could tell their political and military hold on power was very flimsy at first and they had to use liberal institutions and direct military occupation but had to move carefully at first.
if the whole "I DECLARE AN EMPIRE" thing palps did in the prequels could be retconned it would be almost perfection
explains so much in the end and deeply tied to material reality it breathed life into what i thought was a dead franchise and i dread the next season with how rushed it's going to be
The point of the whole "I DECLARE AN EMPIRE" bit was that he didn't change the role of the republic much. The two were fundamentally the same at the time of the clone wars and the republic couldn't stop it. It's just a Hindenburg allegory.
yeah, no shit, nobody identifies with the bad guys because they don't consider themselves the bad guys, allegory can't defeat negative media literacy
nobody identifies with the bad guys
The absolute fucking moment Trump re-takes office, you're going to see Donald Trump / Darth Vader mash ups, with the Death Star blowing up a planet tagged "Woke Libs" and Vader choking a guy labeled "Biden Voters".
I mean hell, Zelensky did that flashy promo for the war while wearing that t-shirt explicitly saying "Join the Dark Side"
You see two sides, one wearing civilian clothes and flight suits; the other wearing Nazi uniforms and blowing up planets and their brains are too fuckin' scrambled to see which one is the side you're supposed to root for
was always suspcious of anyone who was like "the Empire just looks cooler and has better gear/asethetics"
never got that. even as a kid. the rebel alliance had combined arms tactics, brilliant generals/admirals, special forces commando teams, used camo, carried more advanced infantry weapons and used vastly superior, albeit outnumbered, combat space craft
like how tf do you root for the human wave/swarm tactics guys who cheap out on even basic defenses for their space craft?
space battleships are pretty cool, imperial prop direction wasn't exactly ugly either. basically everything in star wars had to look 'cool' for merchandising after all. actually thinking about it that Han Solo movie & Andor were the only installments that had the imperials looking mostly ugly & unpleasant. everything else the costumiers can't resist making a new cool design to sell toys with
cool designs sure. battlefield tactics and their military is terrible, like both in the lore and just on screen as well
And yet, some of the worst Empireheads are the old EU nerds
They point at Grand Admiral Thrawn just like all the Wehraboos who idolize Rommel
And guys, I don't think being a fan of the "brilliant tactical mind who fights for their empire despite disagreeing with it ideologically" trope makes a difference
just like Rommel's 'disagreement' with the Nazis is overwrought and superficial; Thrawn was still a fascist, just less racist by virtue of being a Blue Guy
guys who cheap out on even basic defenses for their space craft
Hey, "good enough" aircraft can be cool
I dunno what to tell you here, their shit looks slick.
i was personally into the helmet design. Darth Vader has that obvious samurai helmet combined with a gas mask thing going on.
Stormtrooper helmet just look neat ig
TFW you love Capitalism but you hate the reality it has created
Trump is just gonna to do Capitalism In One County and it's going to be awesome.
Wait, I thought the guy in OP was a leftist pointing out right wing stupidity.
Then i saw the second image.
no it says "resistance", they watched the shitty star wars
for the rest of american history people who dislike the current president are going to imagine themselves as a guerilla fighting force waging protracted people's war from the mountains. then when their guy finally wins the election, the other side gets their four years to do it.
Bit idea: Voting for Biden as a kindness to Trumpers so they get a chance to live the fantasy
"Scoff, it's Physics 101! Right off wikipedia "Electrical resistivity is a fundamental specific property of a material that measures how strongly it resists current." See, The Resistance always fights against what's new. Ergo, The Resistance is always, by definition, on the side of preserving the status quo."
The aesthetics of rebellion be freely used by reactionary movements or literally anyone at all at any point
Why are we referring to Alan Moore in the past tense as if he's dead?
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