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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is the most British act of vandalism ever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If that was true, they would have used marmite.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

They'd be there all day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't that have been Australian?

Or is that vegemite?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Marmite is British and vegemite is Australian.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Britain and Australia are two distant cousins separated by a planet but united in their love of that bitter black goop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Most Scottish

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

this is a victimless crime that is also crimeless because it shouldn't be illegal

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately the tittle misses. Spray painted cunt on the plinth and planned to glue themselves to it.

Jam and porridge has minimal victims yes. Someone has to pay to clean it. So I'd say clean up is a punishment that suits the crime.

Spray paint and glue gets a bit more complex. As clean up is a little more involved. And presents the risk of damaging the statue.

Unfortunately the concept of who the statue represents and current feelings towards her. Really do not relate to weather their is a victim or not. It is property be it tax payers or some wealthy plonk. Victims exist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

I was on board with making a mess but i see where defacing property could be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

yes, but defacing the statue of a royal is cool and good, and the more defaced it gets, the cooler and gooder. why clean it up? why erect it in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

To deface it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ok this will get a littlevlong. In part because I am thinking as I type. I am also legally blind (very poor vision) so forgive some typos on my tablet.

Your opinion or mine of the value of a persons property. Has and should have 0 effect in the laws relating to that property.

Lets take a less questionable example. If a person collects Nazi statues and memorabilia the law has no right to decide you and I may harm or destroy it. Nor dose him or her owning it indicate he agrees with their views. Be honest with yourself. In 2024 even if you consider the history of the allies to be important to remember. Few today would agree with the soldiers views on women's rights and racial integration. You would be hard pressed to find a person or time in our nations past. Where you or I agree with all of their views.

But the past still happened. And we still have a duty to let our decendents see evidence of how the people of the time saw the world around them. Back in the time of Queen Victoria most of England by a huge %. Supported the existence of the royal family. Heck 250 years before (1649) her rule. We killed the king and replaced it with parlimentry rule. It lasted untill 1660. So in less time then the current tory shitshow of a government. The people of the UK decided they wanted a king again.

Yeah that is a simplification of the times and ideals. But it dose make it very clear that the people of the time that bust was made. Had very differing ideals of the youth of today. The evidence of that past needs to be their for our decendents to see.

Because we will not be there to tell them what the world we grew up in felt or looked like. ( by we im going to guess i am older then you here)

But generations from now. People will need busts and statues like this. In museums. To fully understand the effort and work our ancestors were willing to put into supporting the royal ideal. Or else they will have no understanding of the history that motivated us to change it. That is afterall the point of museums. (Ignoring the theft of other nations history)

I was born in 1970. And while when I was young republican sentiment was far from unheard off. It was also still very very much a minority opinion. I watched it growth. By the 90s things very much started to change. The general attitude was that the corranation of Charles would lead to a greater push for republicanism. But folks supported the current queen. By the mid 2000 more info about the queen's actions started to help. But republicanism was still well under 50%. Hugly so with folks older them me. Pretty close to 50% at my age.

My personal view for what it is worth. We need to remove our current fptp political system before giving more power to parliment. And removing the monarch atm would only make the PM head of state.

But yes it is time the royal family was no more then they are in other EU states. I just feel removing a system that allows less them 30% to often select the direction of the nation. Is more urgent then removing the figurehead atm.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (4 children)

victimless crime

They damaged a statue that belongs to a publicly owned local museum...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They put more history in it. That's practically a service to the museum, a value add. Ought to be commemorated for it, really.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Least deranged hexbear user

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah, bunch of useful idiots, bots, and shills spreading authoritarian propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

They will be commemorated, by the prison system putting more history into them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

importing the yankee's hardon for punishment, i see

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm just using your logic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Treating things as things -> me, cool, historical

Treating people as things -> you, smuglord "logical"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They poured what I eat for breakfast every morning on a chunk of stone. I think it'll be fine.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Which is owned by the city, they damaged a statue owned by the city.

Big fucking deal mate. No one was actually hurt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So there was no victims ofJanuary 6th either because the capital building is publicly owned too?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re right, defacing a statue is the same as attempting insurrection, doubly so where people were assaulted or died.

That’s your fucking amazing retort is it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My retort is that "it's publicly owned so it's fine if anyone destroys it" is a stupid argument no matter who makes it

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

It’s called nuance.

Not everything is exactly the same in the world.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago

*they poured jam over a statue

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"Come out Ye, Black and Tans"... more like "Come out Ye, Porridge and Jams", amiright?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

This is Rigged has said it will continue to carry out similar actions until its demands are met. They include supermarkets reducing the price of baby formula to March 2021 prices and the Scottish government funding and implementing a community food hub for every 500 households in Scotland.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

They really showed... someone?.. something?...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Government is fortunate that people aren't regularly rioting and burning buildings to the ground with the state the country is in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Two members of a campaign group have been charged after they poured porridge and jam on a bust of Queen Victoria and spray-painted the word “cunt” on the plinth at Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum in Glasgow.

Sorcha Ni Mhairtin, 30, and Hannah Taylor, 23 from This Is Rigged carried out the actions around midday on Sunday before reportedly gluing themselves to the plinth.

The group said it carried out the act to protest against increasing food insecurity.

Ni Mhairtin, an Irish activist and community food worker in Glasgow, said: “We refuse to be dragged back to the Victorian era.

Other stunts the group has carried out this year include occupying the royal dining room at the Palace of Holyroodhouse.

A spokesperson from Police Scotland said: “Around 11.55am on Sunday March 3 2024, police were called to a report of a protest and alleged vandalism within Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum, Kelvingrove Park, Glasgow.


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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

There's only one man who would dare give me the raspberry... LONE STAR!!!