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[–] [email protected] 102 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Rest in power to a real one. If you're gonna go out, best to do it for a reason and in a way that's hard to ignore.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

well goddamn. Too early to tell but I hope I was wrong about news coverage / sticking power. I'm going to a vigil tonight.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago

If they actually report it like this during prime time that would be more notable. It's CNN so assume this was cynical, probably the presidential horse race needs some spicing up.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Based (except for the self-immolation, I'm so sorry for him and his family).

[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe this is disrespectful, but has anybody else been listening to "Born in the USA" a lot since Bushnell's self-immolation? Given the song's themes of US imperialism and working class issues, from the perspective of a (former rather than active) member of the US Armed Forces, you know.

I dunno. There's just something kind of... I dunno how to put it other than "painfully captivating" about someone famous only for his death, especially when that death happened "right before your eyes" in a sense. This tiny moment when this soul enters our collective awareness at the same time as he leaves it, having chosen to dedicate that singular moment to what he stood for. There is only so much we can learn about who he was as a person before that point, and nothing more we will learn after that point because there is literally nothing after that point. It's like starting a book in medias res right at the end.

Sigh. I hope Bushnell enjoys the afterlife. Free Palestine; death to fascism, colonialism, and imperialism; long live the Palestinians. Though he burned himself and his death was very striking, let us organize and fight and let us remember the myriads killed in this genocide.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Born in the USA

This reminded me that the Rascal Flatts cover of this song exists and I must share my pain

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago

If you're in the US, talk to other comrades and figure out how you can make sure these words are heard

[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Huh seems they skipped the, "This Is What Our Ruling Class Has Decided Will Be Normal" part

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago

No, they read that aloud as well

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

frankly i hate the news on this. probable trans person based on their username. i dont like seeing our people kill themselves, its just bad and awful and i hate everything about it. if any of you fuckers get any ideas like this i will hunt you down

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, when I read the CrimethInc article I saw the footnote that the e-mail they received specified he/him pronouns, and I thought, "That's a bit unusual for a military man, but obviously it's quite welcome." -- and then I kept reading and I saw "LillyAnarKitty" and I thought, "💔"

And so I feel kind of torn. Ultimately he did ask to be referred to with he/him pronouns and by the name Aaron Bushnell, and so I've respected that, but a part of me thinks that that was only because he didn't want to be remembered as a trans girl for the sake of other trans girls. To not have to hear news about one of our own dying, to not have media coverage distract from the potent image of a member of the armed forces self-immolating by focusing on that person being a trans girl. It's pretty fucked but... Sigh.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

i dont like it at all. no one should be doing this

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

probable trans person based on their username.

That's what I noticed too when I saw the username.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The name of their Twitch channel is lilyanarkitty. This is the Twitch channel name they chose to record their final moments on Earth.

Lilyanarkitty

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

recently I heard on a podcast that someone who was planning to participate in "the shoe bomb" was stopped by his dad. who said something along the lines of "I heard people are talking about suicide bombing. if you commit suicide I will fucking kill you." and he was sufficiently scared of this he changed his mind.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

That was You’re Wrong About. Really interesting episode.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I didn't even know they were likely trans and that makes it even worse.

While I do hope Bushnell's sacrifice spurs the world into action there's this line to walk when honoring it where you don't tell comrades, many of whom are struggling right now, to jump into a fucking meat grinder in the hopes it will somehow kickstart a revolution.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I imagine he was privy to a lot more than most people see, and most of what we see is pretty fucking bad.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He probably didn't see any particular imagery we didn't, but knowing the work you're required to do is contributing directly to the bloodshed would get to you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

He had orders to be ready to deploy to israel.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It's strange that they're doing this. It would fit the mainstream media profile more to just bury it under the veteran mental health label.

Any idea of why they're allowing Bushnell to be heard?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Please understand manufacturing consent. The media won’t necessarily bury the truth by failing to report it. They will just have one report about it and 99 other reports about how mentally ill he was, or “is Gaza a genocide”, or remind you about the “Gaza Rapes”.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Anything nuanced is simplified and anything simple is bogged down in nuance

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

because he streamed the video and the video went viral on telegram and social media, so it couldn't be hushed or ignored. they needed to mention it to tamp it down and get a narrative going.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

Shocking things get views which probably outweighs the negatives of promoting anti-Israel propoganda. CNN also has the ability to spread the mental health crisis line far wider than any internet personality, which is probably a more effective tactic to undercut Aaron's words than just trying to ignore something so shocking, especially when other competing channels will be showing it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

I really think the biggest part of it is that he was in the military- not only does mainstream society see them as more credible, they're more involved in the genocide. They can't sell it as some weird hippy guy doing something crazy. And I think it has the potential to hit Biden so much differently if the momentum of this story keeps up.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

Good so I know my parents saw this—since CNN is on in their house 24/7–and then they thought: “But this will make it easier for Trump to win the election!” Then they thought that all violence is bad, something that did not apply on 10/6, in Ukraine, or really anywhere else. Then, as CNN cut to ten minutes of pharmaceutical commercials, they forgot about it.

This is not a reflection on Bushnell obviously, I have nothing but respect for him. I just hate my parents.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago

Modern day John Brown.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

If he wasn't an active-duty solider, this would have been totally buried by news.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

willem-van-spronsen "There's warm coffee on the stove when you get here buddy..."

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

The same age as Ned Kelly, and although Bushnell is famous for far less than Kelly, I can only hope that Bushnell's last words will ring as famously as the Jerilderie Letter.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Saw a comment on Reddit claiming that this is Aaron Bushnell's account. https://old.reddit.com/user/acebush1

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can’t change the system from inside the system.

Edit: the only good slaver is a dead slaver ban me you bootlickers

He wasn't even just a comrade, he was a chapo

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Looks like they joined the military because they were flat broke and lost their job during COVID, if this is the right user account and I have the timeline right.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

17 upvotes. 2 comments, one of which had no upvotes. On a simple "Here are some MLK Jr sermons" post. Damn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

What, you mean he wasn't just an evil troop who joined up to be a hog?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is. His insta's the same. Turns out he was involved in organizing in my area cri

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

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