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[-] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago

The film will follow a sadistic mouse who torments a group of unsuspecting ferry passengers.

Not far off from the original plot tbh.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Willie might be a menace, but he also makes music. Missed opportunity to make it a musical.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Not missed yet. Doesn't start filming until spring.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

The cat part bruh

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

yeah it's kinda disturbing even

[-] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago

Just do literally anything else. It doesn't have to make sense. Felix the Cat and Mickey Mouse are two film noir detectives. Mickey Mouse and Winnie the Pooh team up to fight space pirates. A gay romcom starring Mickey Mouse and Fleischer's Bimbo. Just... anything other than Generic Slasher Except Newly Public Domain Character, please.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

Generic slasher is cheaper and takes no time to write though.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I was really looking to that Winnie the Pooh horror film that came out a few years ago. The trailer made it seem like it had some deeper commentary on pet ownership and abandonment, but it turned out to be a simple teen slasher film.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

same, same :(

it wasn't even good tbh

[-] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago

It honestly feels like a ploy from big businus to be like "SEE?! THIS IS HOW BAD MOVIES WOULD BE IF EVERYTHNG WAS PUBLIC DOMAIN!"

[-] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

No, it's just small business (wonder if there's a marxist term for that) following the same gaudy market dictates.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago

so-true Wot if children’s character but he’s EEEVIL?

[-] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Here's $5 for your movie budget. Don't spend it all on the poster.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

.... aaaand they spent it all on the poster

[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The FNAF franchise still seems to be going pretty strong.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

FNAF is weird in that the majority of people into it don't like the games, but instead videos about the games.

I guess it's not that weird. Touhou is like that too.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

Do studios have literally anything beyond edgy horror and Marvel that they can make anymore?

[-] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

can't wait for willie to be a Shin Megami Tensei demon

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Mickey and Donald were already (almost) in Megami Tensei. https://www.vgfacts.com/game/shinmegamitensei/trivia-13558/

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I'm all for immediately jumping on this, but why is it all horror movies? We have an opportunity to showcase exactly why we should be allowing these properties to enter the public domain. Somebody, please, do what Disney did with all the public domain stories, and make something we can cherish. If for no other reason than so we have something to wave in front of the 3 members of congress who haven't been completely bought to show them why it's a good thing that copyrights end eventually.

[-] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

Horror has the lowest barrier to entry by far

[-] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

It's also the most shocking "you can't do that to Mickey Mouse" thing they could make short of a porno (which I'd wager is also in the works) and that's obviously their marketing angle.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I'm all for immediately jumping on this, but why is it all horror movies? We have an opportunity to showcase exactly why we should be allowing these properties to enter the public domain.

My wild guess is that's exactly why. If I was a giant business on the scale if Disney, I'd secretly get somene to make these movies as terrible as possible to spread the idea that public domain = low quality, and convince ppl that me owning the copyright is what kept them from sucking.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I think you're onto something, this sentiment was expressed in the Kotaku (I think) article about the Nazi game.

Paraphrasing but it was like 'If this is the result, why bother releasing any art into the public domain?'

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

IDK... I hope people don't take that away from all this.

It's ok for art to be disgusting or obscene. Art is expression. It doesn't have to be comfortable.

I don't want a giant corporation controlling how people can express themselves, even if those expressions aren't things I personally enjoy.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

live-action Winnie The Pooh killing people is easier to film than assembling a team of animators to make more gentle Winnie cartoons about life and growing up.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Because making a horror movie out of public domain children's characters feels the most audacious. They're going for shock. It's the easiest way to garner attention.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Horror is extremely profitable. Very cheap to write, shoot, produce, and generally gets a good return on its money. There's a reason why most of the big time directors back in the day were first given a horror movie to shoot.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

how about this shit here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe85jZhSflk

this game was called Infestation 88, and is a horror survival type game in which you play as an exterminator and your weapon against steamboat willie is a kind of gas cannon

people pointed out that 88 + gas + rats was extremely sus, and the developer renamed the game to Infestation: Origins, but now the whistle has already been blown and rather than a dog whistle, it's more like the whistle on willie's steamboat

[-] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

tbh you can tell it's nazi shit cause steamboat willie's the target and not the exterminator

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

We already have 100 Bendy and the Ink Machines!! Do something fun!

[-] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago
[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

this rules so hard

[-] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

HE DOESNT EVEN NEED TO WEAR THE FUCKING HAT OR BE IN BLACK AND WHITE

[-] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I think he does actually. Micky Mouse himself isn't public domain, just his appearance in Steamboat Willie.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

That's correct, mostly. He doesn't need the hat since the other two cartoons that are public now depict him with different (or no) headwear. All three are black & white tho. This is from his wikipedia article:

On January 1, 2024, the copyrights of the first three animated Mickey Mouse cartoons and their portrayal of Mickey Mouse expired, and they entered the public domain. They are the silent cartoons Plane Crazy and The Gallopin' Gaucho, and the sound cartoon Steamboat Willie. Newer versions of Mickey Mouse will remain copyright protected.

Although Mickey Mouse lapsed into the public domain in 2024, the character, like all major Disney characters, remains trademarked, which lasts in perpetuity as long as it continues to be used commercially by its owner. So, whether or not a particular Disney cartoon goes into the public domain, the characters themselves may not be used as trademarks without authorization.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

You're thinking of the public domain as if Walt Disney had given us a licence to use a particular depiction of Mickey Mouse.

It's not the case. It's hard to imagine after 100 years, but the character is now as free as Jesus, or Winnie the Pooh, or the three piglets. You can incorporate mickey into your story however you want, depict him however you like.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

axont is correct, actually. See my reply to them.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Is that the case? The way it was explained to me is that Mickey Mouse the character is still under trademark, but the short film Steamboat Willie is what falls under public domain now. I was told as an example that one couldn't use Mickey Mouse as a logo, but could make derivative works of Steamboat Willie.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You can take Mickey from Steamboat Willie, make him wink, give him tie-dye shorts and pink skin, and use him as the logo Mickey Dishwasher Soap—you can't use him as is for a trademark because it's too generic.

You can't use his ears for an animation studio or a TV channel because it's easy to confuse with Disney's trademarks.

Trademarks are limited by category (which is why Apple Computer got into a lawsuit with Apple Records only after Apple Computer launched iTunes, before it was perfectly fair) and enforced on similarity. Also a trademark has to be distinct but doesn't have to be original, you can use a bitten apple as a trademark but you can't copyright that shape.

Edit: another difference between trademarks and copyright is that you never lose the copyright, but you must keep enforcing a trademark. If you let your brand become the generic term for a product, if you let others use your mark without suing them, then you lose the rights over the name.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

capital, not satisfied with enshittifying the present and future, has now begun enshittifying the past

Death to America

[-] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm surprised there hasn't been a flood of articles talking about abolishing public domain in the US because that would be, and I quote "leaving money on the table and ruining our economy."

There is nothing they won't enshittify and they will say that their system is perfection.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Who enshittifies the present, enshittifies the past. Who enshittifies the past, enshittifies the future

Literally 1984

[-] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

honestly a gritty steamboat willie that critiques the depths of depravity that is disney's history goes hard

already been done (can't remember where, but evil steamboat willie is def a trope), but I can't get enough of that shit

[-] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

See: Bendy and the Ink Machine

[-] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

i support copyright law because that means only people cool enough to break the law will have access to others' intellectual property

[-] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Is this what it was like during the 80s golden age of shitty direct to video slashers

[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It'd be funny if Disney realizes that all of the lobbying money they've spent on copyright shit was completely wasted because it turns out nobody cares about knockoffs.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I'm glad South Park psycho Mickey is getting some expanded lore.

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