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I'm curious as to what everyone's reasons are! The Linux desktop has came quite a far ways in the last few years and is improving every day. I'd say for most people, Linux could easily replace Windows as their daily driver nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

For development, Linux is soooo nice. But when I want to play games, anticheats don't tend to be happy running under wine. X11 is also ancient garbage, and Wayland is just not ready.

So instead, I run windows. When I need to do Linux stuff, I use WSL. VSCode lets me run it under WSL as if it were running on Linux directly, and very few of the things I've used under WSL have complained about it.

As soon as Wayland is actually ready, and companies stop their anticheats from getting mad under wine, I will switch back over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use Linux at work regularly, and often prefer Linux and suggest Linux for work projects. It's an extremely capable OS for infrastructure and embedded applications. It's a pain as a desktop though. It's just clunkier and harder to do things. Intermediate level configuration tasks which you can do with one dialog in Windows require editing shell scripts and decoding APIs designed by mathematicians in the 70's on Linux. It's just too much when I want to relax after work.

Also I like gaming, and gaming through a compatibility layer like Wine is always annoying. I don't want launching a new game to be a project in itself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Intermediate level configuration tasks which you can do with one dialog in Windows require editing shell scripts and decoding APIs designed by mathematicians in the 70's on Linux.

Full disclosure, I've used linux since high school, to the point where I am lost as shit on windows. What I'm trying to get at is that the question I'm about to ask is not supposed to be judgemental or disbelieving or anything, I'm just genuinely curious: can you please give me an example of an intermediate config task that's significantly easier on windows than linux? I have a hard time believing such a thing exists, but that's likely because I haven't used windows since like the vista days

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

can you please give me an example of an intermediate config task that's significantly easier on windows than linux?

I feel like it's the kind of thing that use to be true. I think it's easier to edit a a text file in linux and run the restart service command in terminal than it is to wander through window's new maximum white-space electron GUIs and hope what you're looking for isn't removed in windows 10 or doesn't get reset back to default on next update.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I absolutely agree. I've been very happy with linux for years. I love a well-documented plaintext config file!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I only use my machine for work and I'm required to use Windows 11. I wish I'd gotten into Linux when I was younger and computers were still fun but I've come to hate this little electronic box.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gaming and troubleshooting knowledge. I make my living using my computers, and if something goes wrong and I can't fix it on the spot, i'm screwed.

Last time I tried a dual boot, my rig had a wifi dongle that took me about a month to get working. It was great for a time, then all of the sudden it stopped and I couldn't get it back. Terminal entry stuff should be a rarity too, I'm not afraid to go into it or Windows power shell but it has its own language and I don't have time to teach myself. It seemed like every time I tried to do something, it NEVER produced the result other people were getting, and then I couldn't find the error that I was getting.

I want to switch quite badlly tbh, but I really do need it to be as simple and reliable as Android. Once my home server is built, I'm loading a Linux distro on it to start, then I'll add a dual boot to my main rig.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

install termux on your phone if you wanna just mess around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

RGB lightining and Valorant.

Also I would really love an immutable kde distro that is very up to date.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I can barely manage to do the dishes most of the time and you expect me to learn a new OS? sisyphus

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I have a bad history with Linux, but in the future I plan to conquer this weird dimension as the current one (windows) is going to shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My desktop’s a many-hats workstation. Half of it I could easily do in Linux using the software I use now, half of it I can’t. Do work with it a lot through WSL2 and our servers though.

And well, my laptop’s an M1 MacBook. It has its own issues. :P

Main issue on the desktop side though is not having the Adobe Suite, love em or hate em it’s what we use. And, I personally use every major bit of it a lot, and then also do collaborative work with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've used Linux and simply had no use for it. My DAW of choice is Ableton Live and there's no Linux version. I tried running it through windows emulators but that was just finicky. The only big name DAW I know about that has a Linux version is Reaper, which is fine, but I'm not that great with Reaper and the stock fx aren't great. I don't know of any free software style DAWs for Linux that would work with vsts and ASIO.

I did use Ubuntu on a Chromebook for a long time when I was trying to learn more coding, but then I figured out I don't enjoy coding. That's probably my main reason for disliking Linux. I don't wanna mess around in the guts of code, it's tedious and uninteresting to me. I just want it to work already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think an overlooked potential userbase for linux is older people who are still on windows XP. I have a few family members on manjaro mate (I know there are better distros, but it's what I use personally) which is overall more familiar to them than newer windows versions would be. Get it set up with regular BTRFS snapshots and a grub hook, and you can talk them through rolling something back easily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I feel like I'll need to switch to linux at some point whether I want to or not, since the assholes at microsoft seem to want to turn Windows into a subscription service, but for now windows is fine and I'm scared of fucking up my computer trying to figure out how to get linux going.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm afraid of messing up a dual boot install

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

[grub boots into rescue mode]

I have seen the face of God.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Because “computers” isnt a hobby for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Gaming. For anything work/school related I'll use a vm or ssh into the school labs if i think the task will be easier on linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I do use Linux, but it isn't quite there with gaming (although it is getting there). That is the only thing keeping me on windows 10 on the desktop. Every other kernel in my household is Linux.

I hate windows 11, so I will be making the full switch soon I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I hate how almost all system programs have weird names/icons. KDE, why is a file explorer named Dolphin?? It has zero link to files to me. And that goes for a lot of default programs making it unintuitive to use.

Windows uses clear names for everything, why can't Linux do the same? Or at least, let me rename Dolphin (and others) to a name that makes sense. But that appears to be impossible too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The file system. I can't touch that mess. And because I know Linux (Unix) will never adopt the windows file structure. I have given up on the idea of switching to linux, I am too attached to my partitions

Plus there are no professional grade CAD software for linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What is it about the windows file structure you would miss?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Having partitions at the top of the hierarchy. C:\ for everything system and finicky programs like adobe suite and autodesk. And other partitions each for a specific aspect.

D:\ for personal

E:\ for portable software

F:\ for work files

And so on.

I hate to be dictated where to put my files. I very rarely put files in \my documents or \music folder . I like to install programs wherever I like.

And removable drives parading as files accessible from inside another file isn't to my liking too

You can say I have been brainwashed by windows. But some of its aspects are just superior to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is one of the areas I think *NIX blows Windows out of the water. The Windows file system hierarchy is a complete disaster and probably one of the worst things about Windows. Programs just throw their junk wherever they feel like and it makes finding things like config files an absolute nightmare. Is it in %APPDATA%? Nope. Is it in Program Data? also nope. Is it in the Program Files? why is it in the Program Files?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I don't like programs spreading their files everywhere. But I very rarely have to deal with that. Because I am not an OS nerd. I just look for it in forums when needs be. What frustrates me in windows is apps leaving breadcrumbs all over the registry after an uninstall.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I got a new laptop recently and decided to try Linux again. That being said, I ended up jumping into Fedora Sericea to experiment with both the immutable image thing and to try i3/Sway, so we'll see how that goes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I mainly use my pc to play games, maybe 90% works fine but that 10% is still quite a lot. Also, even if the games themselves work sometimes extra tools (like overlays) around them don't, which is the case for my main game.

Lastly I have struggled with X11 in the past so much with my multiple different resolution and refresh rate monitors working, and it doesn't seem like Wayland is there yet either.

I look forward to these things being ironed out, it has come a very long way in the past few years, I do believe a couple more and I'll be able to switch back to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I gave it a go and ended up switching back to Windows. While I liked it overall even if aspects of it were pretty annoying, I need Google Drive to function and sync my files locally for work. There's no native client and none of the third party ones worked like they were supposed to. I could have dual booted, I guess, but nah

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

tried it and it fucked my computer up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have decisional anxiety and every time I go to try and pick a version to install I get recommend like 5 different builds, get intimidated, and fall back to my safe space

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

decisional anxiety

Use Linux Mint, if you can't get Mint to work then don't bother with other distributions and try again next year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Just wanted to let you know that I'm sending this to you from Linux Mint :)

Really appreciate the push and recommendation!

fidel-salute

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have tried many, many times in the past, and intend to try again in my next build this next summer. However, Linux just did not work for me.

Biggest issue for me is quite literally any use of terminal is too much use of terminal. If I have to open up terminal at all, windows immediately becomes the preferred OS. I don’t care how easy it is to copy / paste some lines of text that someone else wrote (I have no idea what those commands I’m pasting in do), I just do not ever want to open a terminal.

I have a steam deck too, and I somewhat enjoyed using it as a desktop with a dock. It seems to run fine! However, I have some issues with apps not updating and whatnot.

Also, there’s just the issue of learning a whole new os. I did it 5 years ago when I got a new job and it came with a MacBook, and now I honestly love Mac OS. Way better than windows imo, which is promising for me to like a Linux distribution as learning wasn’t so hard!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Asking out of curiosity, why are you so averse to using the terminal?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not op but it's just a pain in the ass to learn esoteric, poorly documented commands and navigate a string of cryptic error messages just to access my slop when I'm too tired to exist after work

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess that's fair, except the bit about "poorly documented". It's one of those things though, where you look back and think "yeah that was definitely worth learning".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You are doing your handle justice lmao, respect

Idk I just can't be arsed to learn what sudo rf | -m --po "pigpoopballs" -f does, sudo is gibberish, rf is gibberish, | is gibberish, - is gibberish, -- is gibberish, m might as well stand for "meaningless", and I don't want to spend an hour on stackoverflow reading a five-way argument written at a technical depth that is several university-level classes beyond my understanding, just give me a gui that works and has nigh-universal support. I look at my computer and I'm like "English mfer do u speak it???"

If I was setting up a hardcore coding environment or like doing a project with a raspberry pi then I see the utility, but not to connect to my projector at 11pm

Just my ignorant ass opinion tho