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Elon Musk has decried a wave of “insane” strikes focused on Tesla workshops in Sweden, as workers target the US electric car manufacturer in a strike calling for collective bargaining rights.

In what has been portrayed as the largest fight in decades to save Sweden’s union model from global labour practices, the powerful trade union IF Metall has been leading a strike across eight Tesla workplaces in Sweden for five weeks.

It is the first time workers for the US carmaker have gone on strike and on Thursday, Musk, the tech billionaire and chief executive of Tesla, made his feelings clear, writing on X, formerly Twitter: “This is insane.”

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[–] [email protected] 211 points 11 months ago (22 children)

Guys, this is what success for the working class looks like.

If the ruling class is upset, it's because we're doing something right.

If they're content, it's because they're fucking us up the ass with no lube or reach-around.

They literally want us to roll over and just take it. And some of us are proud to. Glad that number is rapidly diminishing, though.

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[–] [email protected] 206 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Cry harder billionaire.

Literally made his money on exploitation and lies. SpaceX is amazing, but built on much smarter minds; he was just the wallet. And he bought Tesla and has been lying and overpromising since he did.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (13 children)

NASA could do what SpaceX does if we gave NASA the money we gave SpaceX. I won't even give him credit for that.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And don’t change their goals every 4-8 years. It is hard to accomplish a 10 year project if you can’t guarantee you’ll still be working on it in 10 years.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (4 children)

But didn't he also go above and beyond to have him portrayed as founder of SpaceX?

[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, and I'm fairly certain he bought the right to be called 'founder' of Tesla... From the founders.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

He did He paid millions for their nda's

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

Then almost immediately bankrupted Tesla. Was their first near miss of going under.

Story has been retconned on their website to say Elon fixed the car. That the Roadster wasn't even close to production ready. He did neither.

What really happened is he wanted to redo much of the looks of the car to put his stamp on it. They spent a small fortune tweaking the Elise body to make it look just slightly less like one. Ballooned their production costs and added a ton of delays. The original team was going to use the Elise chassis as it came from Lotus and people had already lined up to buy that.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Literally made his money on exploitation and lies. SpaceX is amazing, but built on much smarter minds; he was just the wallet.

Not to mention 100's of millions of subsidies from the US government. Space X could never have survived with only his wealth!

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[–] [email protected] 153 points 11 months ago

Musk whines: "This isn't fair, I'm rich, poor people have to do what I say! Get back to work peasants! Why isn't it working?!"

[–] [email protected] 105 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Hmmm calling your workers insane for striking due to their lives and wellbeings endangered, seems entirely responsible and in no way insane.

Is he out of touch? No it is the workers who are wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if someone is insane, it must be Musk, trying to circumvent the unions in a Nordic country, which have one some of the strongest unions and union culture in the world.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They used to have an even greater influence... These days there are no real extended demands, just smaller pay rises for many unions. And the social democratic political parties have severed the historical ties to them i many countries.

The collective agreements are still pretty strong, with unions blocking companies unwilling to agree to these collective Agreements.

Like when Burger King came to Denmark I believe it was, they refused to make collective agreements, and like in Sweden now, many other unions joined in year long boycotts until Burger King caved and agreed to comply.

McDonald's made collective agreements from the start, but had some tax evasion scheme that resulted in them not paying any taxes for decades up until fairly recently.

There is still cross union solidarity, that flair up now and again. But lobbied so called "yellow unions", that offers economical security benifits but without politics for a much lower fee price have chipped away at the older more classic unions.

The US is one of the most active places union wise these days. God knows they need it.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Typical rich person mentality. How easily they forget they don’t create wealth in a vacuum. People are only that rich off the hard work of other people

[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nobody earns a billion dollars, that's impossible. People turn into billionaires by stealing the wages and wealth from their workers.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The sound of strong unions is music to my ears.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

There are almost no minimum wage laws but 90% of workers are unionized or represented in some way. They strike very rarely because employers know unions are strong there but when they do, oh boy the whole country is behind the workers on strike.

130 mechanics started the whole thing!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Good for them. This abuse of workers collective bargaining rights is just divide and conquer. Unions cannot work if you allow them to disappear.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

He should just call them all pedophiles, that should resolve the issue.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

To me, proof that Elon Musk is a doofus and not as smart as he thinks he is, is that he had this public persona of "real life Iron Man" billionaire playboy thing going, and within just a couple years his public image has become "douche bag with too much money". Obviously that one is way closer to reality, which is exactly my point.

Someone with half a brain would have hired a PR team to keep the original image intact for as long as possible, but he's so egotistical and so prideful and so oblivious he thinks he can let his real self on display and that'll just carry him

I think most people are at a point where they only really want to know what he's up to to make fun of him.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I would love it if people would just stop talking about him

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's appreciate the insanity of opening factories in countries with some of the best unions and laws supporting unions and then doing a pikachu face when those unions go and decide to bust your kneecaps for essentially abusing the workers... Elon why did you even open a factory in sweden? It was obvious from the beginning this would happen.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ll take “Things petulant billionaires say when they don’t get their way” for $1000, Alex.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

He's so persecuted. Guys, guys, be nice to Elon. He's just the victim here. There's no way these strikes are a direct response to his policies and business practices.

Poor thing.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“They are insane” = “I’m so far out of touch I can’t understand people who work for a living”

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he makes several hundred times what any of those workers make. That's because his labor is just soooo much more valuable than anything they could do, should be easy for him do all their work too, right?...right?

Yeah, just a friendly reminder that no rich person is "self-made." Their wealth (especially billionaires) is built off the backs of hundreds, often thousands of exploited workers, combined with favors and handouts from the government.

I love watching Musk screech and scream while his ass gets clapped by unions, keep it up!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, he makes several hundred times what any of those workers make.

Not several hundred times more. A million times more. If you made 100k, he made 1000 x 1000 as much as you to make 100 billion.

A billion dollars is an unfathomable amount of money. A hundred billion is unknowable. If anything, your points are even more poignant.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago

I’m an American that hasn’t been to many other countries, but Sweden is fortunately one of them. The culture is different from what I’m used to, and it boils down to respecting the dignity of the people around you, and in the process respecting yourself as well.

So, it’s very nice to see the solidarity of the workers, but also not surprising. In a good way.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires, the true Unskilled Worker

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Worker is a bit of a stretch.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Poor guy. It must be so difficult watching his workers joining together to demand their fair share of his company’s profits. It’d be a real shame if workers in other countries follow suit. I can’t even begin to imagine how difficult it must be to be a billionaire. Those poor bastards.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If workers tried this in Canada the police would roll them over.

It’s a crime to block roads and railways in protest here, unless the police like you, then they take selfies with you.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Musk could spend a million dollars per day for 500 years and still be a billionaire. That’s a literally incomprehensible amount of money.

He could single-handedly end world hunger and barely notice a difference in his staggering wealth. Just paying his fair share of taxes would have a seismic effect on the US in so many ways, but instead he hoards more and more, siphoning wealth from those who need it most into coffers so large, he can’t even really notice.

It’s obscene.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (18 children)

"Waaaah my precious market forces are working against me."

They've seen 50-100% payrises in many cases - unions are important.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

LOL, being forced to burn $44 billion on Twitter was completely rational.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Far åt fanders, surgubbe!

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Waiting for Noway and Denmark to join in and make it even more insane

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yes, it is insane to go against unions in a country with a high degree of unionisation, where collective bargaining agreements are signed exactly because they prevent industrial unrest by ensuring the relationship between management and workers isn't adverserial.

I mean, I say it's insane, but let's be honest. Musk is yet another arrogant American CEO who didn't do his research on how things work in non-domestic markets. It's as much stupidity and arrogance, as it is insanity. Imagine thinking you somehow know better than companies like McDonalds (who did sign agreements with unions).

Musk seems like the kind of guy who thinks about the Roman Empire entirley too much. So it's surprising that he's never heard of the expression 'When in Rome, do as the Romans do.'

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Oh here is some of your own medicine, how does it taste?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Strikes are insane!" declares man who thinks Jews aren't white people.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

Nazicuntsayswhat

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

More Trump-like shit. Anyone who opposes him is 'deranged' or 'crazy'.

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