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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Welp, time to disable OnStar.....

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

A lot of car makers use a cellular connection collect this data. You need to disable that too, as well as any apps used to access car features.

Your cell phone provider could likely deliver this same data as well.

The right answer is to make it illegal to collect, except for a small amount stored on-vehicle for crash analysis.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I agree it should be codified, but have no hope that our fascist leaning lawmakers won't gladly accept $$ from insurance companies and automakers to do what they want to do anyways.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)

We're headed rapidly toward a social credit system, but run by our corporate overlords instead of government. To quote The Stupendium:

You seem so surprised, what did you expect?

We're thinking outside of that box that you checked

The terms were presented in full to inspect

You scrolled to the end just to get to "Accept"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The other side of that coin is, if we all read the bullshit extended legalise in every licence/privacy agreement for everything we've ever used, we'd never do anything else but read them.

Besides which, it's not like there's a choice aside from accepting the agreement or not using the thing. Alternatives? All have similar agreements attached.

Basically, this is just a symptom of how much "better" modern life is. But hey, at least we don't need to worry about lions eating us quite so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What’s the point of reading them? I know there’s a lot I disagree with but I also know i can’t see before buying, I can’t do anything about it, nor are there realistically other choices. All modern cars do it. For any place with any consumer protection, they should be unenforceable, but I’m in the US so have to settle for there’s nothing I can do about it

These are just legal cover, so they can say “see, he agreed,according to our definition”. It doesn’t change what they are doing or whether they would have already

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

We should really have the option of striking through clauses we don't agree with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The song is from the perspective of the company, not the consumer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

song

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

we don’t need to worry about lions eating us

Someone didn't read the line item in the EULA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's OK. I crossed it out with a marker on the screen before clicking agree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Legally unassailable!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But hey, at least we don’t need to worry about lions eating us quite so much.

I'm pretty confident that humans have killed and eaten more lions than lions have humans.

Big cats may be an apex predator, but:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_predator

An apex predator, also known as a top predator, is a predator[a] at the top of a food chain, without natural predators of its own.

That "natural" is a big caveat, as we are that "natural" exception. We eat everything.

In general, large creatures that aren't very good at hiding have not done very well when humans show up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Pleistocene_extinctions

The Late Pleistocene to the beginning of the Holocene saw numerous extinctions of predominantly megafaunal (typically defined as having body masses over 44 kilograms (97 lb)[1]) animal species (the Pleistocene megafauna), which resulted in a collapse in faunal density and diversity across the globe.[2] The extinctions during the Late Pleistocene are differentiated from previous extinctions by the widespread absence of ecological succession to replace these extinct megafaunal species,[3] and the regime shift of previously established faunal relationships and habitats as a consequence. The timing and severity of the extinctions varied by region and are thought to have been driven by varying combinations of human and climatic factors.[3] Human impact on megafauna populations is thought to have been driven by hunting ("overkill"),[4][5] as well as possibly environmental alteration.

We're a lot better at countering disease, though. Malaria has killed more humans than anything else has, and we could really combat that only quite recently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

We're basically already there with credit scores.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Insert southpark centipede meme here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It only impossible if you don't try

Reach out to your reps

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

This is one of the reasons I never want a car with it's own internet connection. I'll stick to plugging in my phone, where I'm very stingy with which apps even get location data, much less the "physical activity history" permission which allows this kind of continuous tracking (and which is usually needed because it uses Google's algorithms / possibly neural nets to guess whether you're driving or walking based on accelerometer / gyro / gps / magnetometer sensor fusion).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yep, all cars connected so you can pay $20/month for remote start and things like this. The only way to disable cellular connection in the car is to unplug the cell antenna from the module. You have to dig the information online to find where is the module and have to disassemble the dash to do so maybe? But it's the only way. Even if you don't pay, the connection will still work and manufacturer receives all info.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The location tracking on my phone is in no way precise enough to determine this info.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lol, that's cute that you think that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've never had the location or direction be incorrect in Google Maps?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Google Maps != carrier tracking. Your phone is perfectly capable of gathering this data using its accelerometer plus GPS and cell tower positioning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Why is Google Maps often inaccurate then?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe your phone, but the insurance company's app lives on a relative's phone, and it can determine the same things mentioned in the article.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I miss my Nokia 3210 too.