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Simplistic, but marginalized narratives were also burned in big bonfires at times, as well.
Sorry I don't follow. I think we agree that if nobody survives or people are forced to exist in a hostile culture it's harder for them to propagate their stories.
But if we go too far we ignore the work of the brilliant people who did manage to preserve their account of events. From Indian perspectives on Indian war of independence vs Sepoy Uprising, to native Americans, Aboriginal Australians, Maori people and so on fighting generational struggles to preserve their recounting of events and be acknowledged.
Show me where I said all marginalized narratives were burned.
But also, some WERE burned. Lost to history. Gone. As if they never happened.
I didn't say that you thought that and I definitely don't mean to. Are you having a bad day or something? is this a cross cultural communication issue?
All I'm saying is that history being written by the victors is a bit simplistic and not very interesting in terms of how to understand history. If you're interested in history I would have thought you'd be keen to look at examples of narratives that refute that popular trope. I meant no offense.
Fair enough. It's hard to read tone on the internet. Sorry for that.
I'll check out some of your articles/books, sure.
You don't follow my thought process, or you're being willfully obtuse?
I don't really know why you replied to my comment with that, nor why you're being hostile right now
Because you've put words in my mouth.
He didn't, but I will.
Dude, gross, keep it to yourself
The last thing I want to do is engage with you, but let's talk this out.
I said to the victor goes the spoils.
He said, "simplistic, a lot of conquered people told their stories."
I said, "I never said they didn't, but a lot of those stories were lost because conquerors are particular about their narratives."
And that's really it. I'm not at work now, so the language is a little less compressed on my end. I had to get to the point yesterday.