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Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what socialism means if you restrict yourself to orthodoxy from 100 years ago.

No, no, no, wiseguy... you don't get to pretend that socialism all of a sudden means whatever the fuck you want it to mean. If that's what you want to do, perhaps you should be meeting in back-rooms with billionaires - because your drivel sure as shit don't mean anything for us proles other than "more of the same."

But the imperative to eliminate it is as artificial as the imperative to eliminate rainy days or icebergs.

In other words... there's nothing socialist about it in any way whatsoever.

See? That wasn't so difficult at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One doesn't need to take centuries old writing as dogma to learn from it or expand upon it. Your narrow definition of socialism is outdated by contemporary standards. You don't have to like it or agree, but don't shoot the messenger.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your narrow definition of socialism is outdated by contemporary standards.

No. It isn't. You just wish it was.

but don’t shoot the messenger.

No, I think we'll just settle for debunking you... which would be no more difficult to do than with any other "enlightened centrist" claptrap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: The political form of a society wherein the proletariat is victorious in overthrowing the bourgeoisie will be a democratic republic.

You: Insufficient fan service

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

will be a democratic republic.

Isn't that what they've been telling us we already have?

Really... try harder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me: exclusionary leftist orthodoxy is the most annoying part about lemmy.

You: but have you considered exclusionary leftist orthodoxy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're excluding yourself, Clyde. Don't expect leftists to include you while you're trying to camouflage the fact that appeasing the status quo serves your interests - that's the kind of shit we have become really good at seeing through.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You heard it here first folks. Democratic socialism is the statues quo. I think we've sufficiently beaten this horse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How are those meetings with the billionaires going? Screwed any labor movements over yet?