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the thing is, every time i tune into local or even national politics its always some kindergarten level problem between two or three groups of people who through their kindergardenness should have lost the privilege to rule us on our behalf... but i dont make the rules, so i guess those kiddos can keep throwing shit at each other and not be adults about leading a country and what that should entail... its just laughable, so it is far easier, bequem geradezu, to just look away
I totally agree, mainstream media is a dog and pony show in most regards. The trick is to educate yourself on political economy, propaganda, and ideologies, so that you can extract underlying meanings behind much of media. For example, by coming to understand the concept of manufactured consent, and the role the private media in the U.S. plays in reinforcing state ideology, you can more clearly see the role that they played in creating support for actions the government intends to take, eg. The rapid spread and use of misinformation and failure to effectively fact check State Dept claims during the lead up to the war on terror. The media was effectively complicit in ensuring that any deviation from the party line they were to hold was sidelined, and even when presented, made into a straw man for ridicule. We can also look to former CIA and FBI officials who publicly acknowledge their use of human assets, either knowingly or unknowingly, to spread false information and create a desired public response.
I could say more, but I just got a video call, so I will have to stop here.
i think here in germany the problems are usually due to varrying levels of corruption, discrimination and nepotism
And to a large degree actually being entirely outdated in terms of worldview.
Over here in Germany we have politicians who plainly do not understand how the world works nowadays. Not even in the "conservative" way but genuinely in a "Holy shit this person is out of touch" way.
Also frightening news is the rise of neo Nazi supporters (AFD voters) over here.
Oh also don't look up our age of consent. It's INTENSELY outdated and not in the good way.
I could definitely see that, and I will defer to your knowledge, I am in no way knowledgeable about modern germanys political situation, nor their media apparatus. What do you think are the biggest issues faced by the general working class in Germany right now? If you don’t have time or don’t care to respond, no worries, I know this kinda stuff can be draining to discuss. If that’s the case, we could chat about something you’re excited for instead, I’m always up to learn something cool!
We need to organize outside of the current framework. They want to play circus then let them, but we are the ones lining up in the front row to watch the show. We can just hang out in the cheap seats and talk amongst ourselves on how to bring the big tent down.
How to achieve this I don't know. That is dependant on your local area. It won't be immediate, and it will take time before there is any sizeable movement to actual begin direct action, but it has been done many times in the past and it must happen again if we are going to see change.