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Boy, 16, arrested after felling of famous Sycamore Gap tree at Hadrian’s Wall
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2023
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I dislike you 16-year old boy, Sycamore Gap Feller.
I dislike you as I dislike Brock Turner, Convicted Rapist.
What a bizarre and completely unnecessary comparison to make..
(to be clear - cutting down a tree, however pointless and destructive, is in absolutely no way shape or form comparable to raping women)
You can still dislike someone for doing something heinous, even though the crime isn't comparable.
Wanton destruction of a living being of historical and cultural significance isn't any more or less acceptable than violating someone's agency and personhood, marring them for life.
Hey, so, lots of rape survivors have asked people to stop framing rape as something that mars a person for life, because it's basically a rephrasing of the outdated idea of a "ruined woman". You can't ruin a person. A lot of people really struggle with the idea that they're dirty forever, and hearing that said by allies constantly doesn't help their recovery. You can still recognize the harm that rape does without reinforcing outdated concepts of purity, where before they were pure and unmarked and after they're "marred for life" with no recovery.
You’re speaking to one. I thank you not to put words in my mouth.
Wow, I've been sexually assaulted too. Guess we're at a detente.
More. The answer is that killing a tree is more acceptable than rape. What’s wrong with you?
Well, if we are going to compare.. which would be worse: raping a tree or killing a 300 y/o old woman?
Funniest thing I've read today. Well done.
The splinters would be punishment enough. And that lady’s probably a vampire.
They didn’t say that.
They quite literally did.
There must be a miscommunication somewhere. It looked like you were saying one wasn’t more acceptable than the other, but I’ll take you at your word that you didn’t mean that. Because that would be an insane thing to say, yet I’m getting downvoted for pointing it out.
Both crimes involve permanent harm that cannot be repaired.
Just because you can't connect the two crimes in your head, doesn't mean someone else can't. Get out of your own head.
Sure, but he's not wrong. It's still bizarre and unnecessary. There's no need to generalize every freaking situation. It eventually waters down language IMO.
But in one case the victim is a person with feelings and in the other case it's a tree. I find it quite concerning that people seem to struggle to see the difference.
I find it concerning that you can't see the similarities between a crime that involves a person with feelings, and a crime that involves an entire community with feelings.
It shows your complete lack of knowledge of biology to assert that trees don't have "feelings". They may not experience them as we do, but there is way more research to be done before that can be definitively stated. With as much as we've learned about fungi associated with tree roots that help them communicate, as well as chemicals they release when damaged to warn other trees, I think it is safe to say that trees and other plants do indeed experience distress.
Rape is a crime in which one person acts heinously out of a desire for control over another person/creature, causing irreparable harm. There are various kinds of rape as well. Do you know, that in history, when one city was invaded by an army, that would be referred to as a rape of that city?
So yes, I think there is plenty of logic to hate both of those youths equally. Both committed atrocities against innocent parties that have resulted in extreme harm.
You mean Convicted Rapist Brock Turner, now going by the name of Convicted Rapist Allen Turner, who was sentenced to six months but only served three for what his father called (and I quote) "twenty minutes of action"? That Convicted Rapist Brock Allen Turner?
[I awaken as a shadow of my former self, a figment of the late-night scroller you met so long ago. I return to you now, humbled and broken by time and nature, and in my defeat I must profess that In my state I find myself unfit to take up the weight of the banner which I swore to bear.]
Yes, the very same Brock Allen Turner, convicted rapist of an unconscious woman behind a dumpster, who only served three months.