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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

*please note i deeply value and respect the vegan movement. i am just critical of how humorously it precipitates in online spaces, particularly this one. :)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Carnist seems to imply that they eat ONLY meat though. They're not carnivores, they're omnivores. It's on the same level as using the terms pro-abortion and pro-life to describe the two sides of that debate. This kind of name calling of an out group is not too far removed from all the wacky names flat-earthers give to all the rest of us just living here on the globe not being wack-a-doos.

Using the term butthurt is some straight up 90s era homophobia too. Nice.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

That could be carnivore, carnist means they follow carnism, which is the ethical framework that justifies human subjugation and exploitation of non-human animals

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnism

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

genuinely curious, how is 'butthurt' 90s homophobia?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It isn't. It's in reference to "having a stick up your ass", which means being uptight and overly serious. Because they are stiff, as though a firm rod had been run the length of their body.

People also mistakenly believe that to be a homophobic phrase too. Mind you, there's a slim distinction here. Telling someone to "shove it up your ass" could be considered homophobic, though I think of it as just rude. I feel like context would matter a lot here.

The youth today think everything insulting must be a slur of some kind and are obcesse with moral purity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The youth today have nothing to do with it. It’s reactionaries who take a genuine issue (people using actual slurs) and apply it to situations that work in their favour (acting like ‘carnist’ or ‘cishet’ are slurs).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I can't find anything except random tweets saying as much, and a medium article behind a paywall saying it isn't.

So... I have no idea either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

From my understanding, carnism is closely related to speciesism. Most people wouldn't eat dogs or cats, but happily eat chickens, cows and pigs.