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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Source: https://linux-hardware.org/?view=os_display_server

Reporting is done by users who voluntarily upload their system specs via
# hw-probe -all -upload

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

Reporting is done by users who voluntarily upload their system specs via
# hw-probe -all -upload

So not skewed at all...

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Do you have a better way of measuring it?
In what direction would voluntary self-reporting of all system specs skew the display server statistic (and why)?

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Do you have a better way of measuring it?

No better way of measuring doesn't mean this is a good way of measuring.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

What way do you imagine would be more precise?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

What way do you imagine would be more precise?

Unavoidable analytics, apparently. Yay?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Well do you want useful stats or not /s

But seriously, a lot of opt-in (that never get opted in to) data is insanely useful for developers, but it has such a bad stigma that we never get anywhere close to the amount of usefulness a larger dataset could provide.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Tbf a lot of that stigma has to do with trust violation.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

A method that attempts to collect data from a randomized or representative population rather than relying on self-report.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

The fact that you need consent to get this data would make a randomized approach impossible.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Yes. It just may be possible that accurate poll data on such things isn't possible.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Steam hardware survey but that will skew towards gamers. That said, it would be a good indicator on how compatible Wayland is.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Why would it be skewed? What would be the cause for a subset of linux users, that upload hardware probes with extraneous information about their display server, to skew the extraneous data?

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[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because a huge portion of the people willing to do this are already on Wayland, but I believe there exists an even larger percentage on X that are not submitting any data.

And another commenter said:

We’re just left to do armchair psychology about the type of people who would submit data to this site. So the numbers are effectively useless.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Because a huge portion of the people willing to do this are already on Wayland, but I believe there exists an even larger percentage on X that are not submitting any data.

What is the basis for that assumption?

And another commenter said:

We’re just left to do armchair psychology about the type of people who would submit data to this site. So the numbers are effectively useless.

So because one cannot know which type of people submit data to the site it should be disregarded? That's basically saying any poll or questionnaire with anonymous yet unique answers are invalid. That's a pretty bad argument.

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[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Anonymous polls are indeed useless for several reasons.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Man I spent 4 paragraphs saying what you just said in one sentence. 😅

[-] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

err, why? actually it can be skewed against wayland(wayland users tend to be more security aware), and why the suprise, KDE, GNOME are wayland from the get go, steam deck too, hyprland and sway etc

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

It can skew either way equally. We're just left to do armchair psychology about the type of people who would submit data to this site. So the numbers are effectively useless.

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