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X (Twitter) to soon begin charging $1 annual subscription in order to tweet and interact.

Next move must be to charge users deleting their accounts $1. And Elon can sell your data to make more money.

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds more like a way to ID everyone on the platform. And perhaps normalize this practice for other platforms going forward.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Quick access to massive credit card info as well. Micro step to "the everything app"?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is a high possibility.

People might think he’s just a bad businessman, but I think they’re overlooking the fact that he’s an evil businessman relentlessly pursuing his dreams of dictatorship based off of actual dictatorships… that is also very bad at business.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Somehow I doubt this credit card info will stay un-hacked for very long...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL my identity is worth $1 a year.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

No, your identity is worth negative $1. You're paying to give it away. He didn't offer $1 to get it.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm gonna call it. This is an (obvious) attempt to squeak in monetization for everyone on twitter that is as unobjectionable as possible, and once everyone's locked in the price will increase, and tiers will be introduced, etc etc., and it's going to work. Nobody still on twitter is gonna care about $1/year to keep access. They'll lap it up and thank Musk for the opportunity to be fleeced.

Musk could still fuck it up by being overly greedy and ramping up too much too fast like he tried to do last year (or this year? I've lost track), but I'd say this has reasonable odds of working out.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Elon simps are already going "lol $1 i literally paid more than that for my coffee"

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

for everyone on twitter that is as unobjectionable as possible, and once everyone’s locked in the price will increase, and tiers will be introduced, etc etc., and it’s going to work.

I'm not so sure about that. The internet is littered with companies that gave away their product for free hoping users would pay for premium features. When they didn't and the companies then had to charge a minimum entry fee for everyone, people dropped the product. There's a barrier to putting in your credit card. Lots of people just aren't interested.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

There are also a whole lot of governmental, health and official bodies where putting through an invoice is a real pain in the bum. It forces a decision whereas previously if had been a simple business as usual process

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Musk wants Twitter to become a 'platform for everything'. Having a payment system in place everyone uses already is key for that.

Not going to say that this is a good idea, but thats the rational.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should probably stop devoting news cycles to this manchild and his vanity pet projects.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm gonna continue my run of not giving Elon Musk a fucking cent.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, if you're a U.S. taxpayer, you've given him a lot of your cents whether you want to or not in the form of subsidies for Tesla and SpaceX.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Some of my cents. I wouldn't say a lot of my cents.

I'm doing mediocre financially but it's not that bad.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Are we sure this man understands business?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He purposefully is destroying it to prevent the poor from organizing.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We can just organize on open platforms like mastodon instead!

Yeah we're fucked lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are overselling Twitter if you think Twitter can do that.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

A lot of us are sure that he doesn't. He is a very skilled con man though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Im fairly sure hes intentionally destroying twitter

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why?

That's such a bizarre amount of money it's not enough to dissuade scammers and it's not really expensive enough for anyone to care about, except in principle.

He really is a massive twat isn't he.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and it’s not really expensive enough for anyone to care about, except in principle.

That's why. Because once people spend some money, they'll be less likely to object to paying more later.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really opposed to spending money to access social media in general (although even before Musk took over, Twitter in particular could get lost) but if I pay money they have to promise to not advertise at me, or sell my data, otherwise what am I paying for?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Why?

Two reasons:

  1. He wants Twitter to be his 'everything app' and the next step in that process is making it a bank.

  2. He wants to sell people's personal data.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Full name. Address. Phone number. Credit Card details.

He wants them on his platform asap.

Once that hook catches it's hard to take out.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

It'd be real cool if folks would just stop using Twitter. You can live without it, y'all.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

It isnt worth that.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk: "can I have a dollar, please"

And he claims he's a billionaire.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For once, the money is genuinely not the point, from any point of view.

The stated purpose, and I think it will accomplish this, is that no one running a bot network will pay this for their bots, so spam reduction.

The likely ultimate purpose is to have the user’s payment info saved to reduce friction for giving Twitter money later on.

The problem though is that they’re adding this friction on to the beginning, so as a result I think the most prominent actual effect is going to be 80% of free users (real ones) are gonna kill it then and there.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What are you talking about? Will the spammers pay a dollar to reach an audience of 20,000 or 50,000 or a million people? Of course they will.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

How long before they go bankrupt?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Downvote Musk spam.

The billionaire doesn’t need your help ensuring him and his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle. Don’t be a useful idiot.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Right. I really need to delete my sleeping twitter account.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Guys how would you keyword block X?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This was his plan all along, you can't /s

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Elon would like to leak your personal information to anyone who is willing to pay his price, please.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I bet it will go like this:

  1. First, it's 1$ a year.
  2. If X survies this, they will eventually change it to 1$ a month
  3. Wait a year or so
  4. Increase to 6$ a month
  5. ????
  6. Profit

Keep in mind that this prediction requires enough stupid people to actually stay on X and pay

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that this prediction requires enough stupid people to actually stay on X and pay

So it's definitely gonna happen.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

X would like to collect a very large amount of payment information from a lot of users to then store in their incredibly mismanaged infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That would kill 99% of the bot accounts after a while as the older accounts cycle out with bans.

But this kills X too. Nothing was lost.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Because its safe to store your credit card info with Musk, surely

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Patiently waiting for the bankruptcy of this company.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Imagine paying money to interact with celebrity shitposts when you can do it here for free.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Elon took Saudi money and money from who knows what other investors to kill Twitter. It’s all done deliberately and just before an American presidential election year.

Make no mistake. They have a plan.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Why are people still using and supporting this hot garbage!?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He's going to learn what mobile games already learned, that the first transaction is the hardest no matter the cost. Also alienates like everyone without a bank account.

It's not even a price issue, it's a logistics issue. Also who knows if people will even trust him with their financial details.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

As someone from one of the affected countries, I'll have to decline. I think Elon has overvalued the utility of his product.

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