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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s sort of… poetic in a messed up way.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CBS dude rode on it and did an interview with the owner.

So many red flags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29co_Hksk6o&feature=youtu.be

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Built with shit from Home Depot, controlled with a literal Logitech game controller, construction pipes as ballast... holy fuck, why would anybody agree to go 3.7km below the surface of the ocean in that deathtrap?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Imagine paying $250k and the pilot pulls out the player 2 controller

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those Logitech controllers are actually pretty decent. I've had one for ages and it's still going strong.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And it's easily replaceable in case of failure. Of all the design shortcuts this one isn't bad.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Hope the pilot tried ⬆️ ⬆️ ⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️ start

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Made out of a fiberglass tube (catastrophic failure) and titanium end caps (cracks) instead of steel.

“Steel is real.”

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Wow, that is super sketchy. Now I am not at all surprised this happened. Hope that company has a shit ton of insurance.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, I’ve seen so many Scientific deepwater vehicles that are thethered to the ship in some form. Why isn’t this thing hooked up to a cran yhat can get it back up if someone fails? I’d think passenger vessels should pass more rigurous safety standards than that.

Are they liable btw or is the “international waters” situation doing them any favor?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I find it strangely hard to care about the fate of a handful of multimillionaire tourists when hundreds of refugees died last week due to the indifference of the Greek authorities - and the media barely noticed.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

...officials are working to get a remotely operated vehicle that can reach a depth of 6,000 meters (about 20,000 feet) to the site as soon as possible.

The 5-person submersible, named Titan, is capable of diving 4,000 meters or 13,120 ft. “with a comfortable safety margin,” OceanGate said in its filing with the court.

but...after looking up on Wikipedia

...a wreck that lies over 12,000 feet (3,700 m) below the surface...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they’re advertising the depth limit of the recovery vehicle, not claiming that the wreck is actually at 20,000 feet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

They probably need quite a bit of margin too if the craft accidentally got lost in a deeper area

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Maybe they're concerned that it no-clipped through the sea bottom and wound up deeper than the Titanic's current location?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might be best practice to use a vessel rated for considerably deeper than you actually go, in case of some problem in the hull?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And/or it's just a description of a particular vehicle they're bringing that was most convenient to get there quickly.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's not like they're going to say, "oh, don't bring THAT recovery vehicle, it can go TOO deep."

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

What I dont get is that one of the passengers was a billionaire. He could have built himself the fanciest and safest vessel for a few Million Dollars with a whole naval operation attached. Of course thats a lot more than 250K but still nothing for a billionaire. These people are so out of touch and cheap its insane.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It goes to prove that billionaires are just as gullible as the rest of the people, all they had was just money and assets, it doesn't grant them wisdom or intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That much money must give you incredible hubris: up until this point you’ve never had a problem that money couldn’t fix (or ease) for you.

Unfortunately, you can’t bribe physics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I've never thought about it this way before. You've given me empathy for billionaires; thanks, I hate it!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Goes to further prove that it doesn't take brains to become a billionaire, I guess

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

This shits going to keep happening as companies continue to rush commercialization of "Extreme" Travel.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if I had a stupid amount of money, there's no way in hell I would pay someone to stuff me inside what seems to be an over-sized propane tank, then send me to depths where the water pressure is so extreme it will literally crush you.

Just...no.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I particularly like the part where this specific submersible can't ever be opened from the inside, because it gets bolted shut from outside.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/missing-titanic-sub-faced-lawsuit-depths-safely-travel-oceangate

This adds to the picture of utter recklessness.

At the meeting Lochridge discovered why he had been denied access to the viewport information from the Engineering department—the viewport at the forward of the submersible was only built to a certified pressure of 1,300 meters, although OceanGate intended to take passengers down to depths of 4,000 meters. Lochridge learned that the viewport manufacturer would only certify to a depth of 1,300 meters due to experimental design of the viewport supplied by OceanGate, which was out of the Pressure Vessels for Human Occupancy (“PVHO”) standards. OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the required depth of 4,000 meters.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

So they wanted to die. Got it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It has 96 hours of life support, I have faith.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am hopeful, but not necessarily optimistic...if it lost power and descended below crush depth, no amount of life support is bringing them back.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I hope there’s some kind of black box… what would be worse than it happenning again one day because we don’t know what happenned.

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